Author Topic: Sat TOD - Nothing Moves, Nothing Flys - frame 1 - results (Read 1806 times)

Exile · « **on:** January 27, 2002, 11:01:36 AM »

http://events.simladder.com/tod_results_sat.php?tour_id=10&frame=2

There was only 1 orphaned pilot: ManeTMP. I'm impressed guys.

If you want to claim him, let me know and I'll take care of it.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #1 on:** January 27, 2002, 11:28:38 AM »

Exile, CM"s please note and adjust score:

A squaddie posted :

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After looking throught he Sat Tod results from frame 1, Various results are shown on how a flight ended ie "Mysteriously disappeared", "Lands to refuel/rearm", "Captured by enemy forces" and "Unknown" the latter which presumably covers discos.
Also of particular note is "Shot down"

My reason for posting this is as follows, regarding the "Round table" squad did they realise it was a 1 life event ?
Others may have been at fault as well cant be asked to check but after looking to see who shot our squad down in our bootiful 190f8's i noticed that between 3 of there players, Shane, Iron2 and Seeker they managed to use a total of 7 spitfires after being reported as shot down.
Iron2 was reported as "shot down" twice and was still flying at the end total of 3 spitfires used.
Seeker was reported as "Shot down" once total of 2 spitfires flown.
Shane was reported as "Shot down" twice total of 2 spitfires flown.
Of particular note for Rip, Vladd who shot Rip had already been reported as shot down once and was on his second Typhoon when he got Rip.

Maybe i missed something and this has already been noted and or discussed, but it seems a lot of them aircraft that bounced us were being piloted by ghosts

Note I am assuming of course that discos would be reported as the "Unknown" or "Mysteriously disappeared" options.

-ammo- · « **Reply #2 on:** January 27, 2002, 12:57:12 PM »

Hi exile, Manetmp flew witrh the 332 vikings, GA's squad.

Thx for the quick results!

Flossy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 27, 2002, 01:24:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Exile, CM"s please note and adjust score:

A squaddie posted : ... Various results are shown on how a flight ended ie "Mysteriously disappeared",...

Well I do know what happened with one of the "Mysteriously disappeared" flight endings, because my husband, Zeb dumped at the beginning of yesterday's frame - this is how his flight is shown to have ended.

Exile · « **Reply #4 on:** January 27, 2002, 01:44:21 PM »

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Originally posted by -ammo-
Hi exile, Manetmp flew witrh the 332 vikings, GA's squad.

Thx for the quick results!

added to roster and he is showing in results now

thx

funkedup · « **Reply #5 on:** January 27, 2002, 01:45:31 PM »

Round Table pales in comparison to 332 Sqn. The Vikings used 22 planes for 8 guys. That's gotta be a record.

Also the only points they earned were negative points for team killing, but it shows them with positive points on the totals.

Looks like there was a bug in the scoring on this one.

I can't imagine Vikings (experienced TOD unit) cheating like that, I don't remember Round Table saying anything about taking off again.

Exile · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2002, 01:51:12 PM »

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After looking throught he Sat Tod results from frame 1, Various results are shown on how a flight ended ie "Mysteriously disappeared", "Lands to refuel/rearm", "Captured by enemy forces" and "Unknown" the latter which presumably covers discos.
Also of particular note is "Shot down"

My reason for posting this is as follows, regarding the "Round table" squad did they realise it was a 1 life event ?
Others may have been at fault as well cant be asked to check but after looking to see who shot our squad down in our bootiful 190f8's i noticed that between 3 of there players, Shane, Iron2 and Seeker they managed to use a total of 7 spitfires after being reported as shot down.
Iron2 was reported as "shot down" twice and was still flying at the end total of 3 spitfires used.
Seeker was reported as "Shot down" once total of 2 spitfires flown.
Shane was reported as "Shot down" twice total of 2 spitfires flown.
Of particular note for Rip, Vladd who shot Rip had already been reported as shot down once and was on his second Typhoon when he got Rip.

Maybe i missed something and this has already been noted and or discussed, but it seems a lot of them aircraft that bounced us were being piloted by ghosts

Note I am assuming of course that discos would be reported as the "Unknown" or "Mysteriously disappeared" options.

I remember Seeker saying he thought he was upping in a gunner position, but accidentally upped in his previous ride. The time between take-off and landing reflect this.

I'll bring up the issue of people taking off after having been shot down with Daddog.

funkedup · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2002, 01:56:15 PM »

If you look at the Round Table page it shows only FDutchmn using more than one plane, and he lost it from "unknown" which is probably a disco. So there is definitely some kind of bug going on.

214thCavalier · « **Reply #8 on:** January 27, 2002, 02:30:36 PM »

Could be a bug of some sort in reporting i guess, or a misunderstanding of the rules is possible.
Either way i dont wanna fly escort near the Vikings, hell one of them is credited with killing 3 of his wingies

Gremlin · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2002, 05:44:39 AM »

Looking at the logs for Viking Squad, somebody needs to tell them this is a one life event. Even allowing for pilots shot down by friendlies to re-up. The following pilots upped illegally after being killed.

Bozon Once
Clouds Twice
Duvel Twice
iceydee Twice
Selector Once
Swap Once

GA I think you owe us an explanation. I'm stunned at this since my squad CO was not allowed re-up after a disco even though it was less that t+45. To see this makes me rather mad. Hopefully there is however a logical and sane explanation??

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FDutchmn · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2002, 08:31:36 AM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
If you look at the Round Table page it shows only FDutchmn using more than one plane, and he lost it from "unknown" which is probably a disco. So there is definitely some kind of bug going on.

I had a CTD when I tried to get on the runway. I came back up after informing the CM that I had a CTD.

Shane · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2002, 11:06:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Exile, CM"s please note and adjust score:

Shane was reported as "Shot down" twice total of 2 spitfires flown.

yes, quite right old chap.

the incident of what occurred is quite simply attributed to a graphics bug - to wit, the re-arm tower was not in any frontal aspect of the mossie (re-arm pad was crowded), the tower appeared right in front of my nose, no way to get around it or back up (lazy ground crew) so i explained situation to tilt, then i tried to ease around it and of course busted my wing off,

meanwhile, tilt had given me permission to re-up which i gratefully took.

say wot? crumpets with that tea?

-ammo- · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2002, 06:16:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Shane

yes, quite right old chap. the incident of what occurred is quite simply attributed to a graphics bug - to wit, the re-arm tower was not in any frontal aspect of the mossie (re-arm pad was crowded), the tower appeared right in front of my nose, no way to get around it or back up (lazy ground crew) so i explained situation to tilt, then i tried to ease around it and of course busted my wing off, meanwhile, tilt had given me permission to re-up which i gratefully took.

say wot? crumpets with that tea?

You should not been allowed to reup. If the rearm pad is crowded then you wait the 30 seconds for your compatriots to load and move off of it. Or half of you could stay up and cover the other squad while they reload and then land.

Point is though, if you crash your AC on taxiing, then its a wrap for you.

Gremlin · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2002, 06:20:44 AM »

Then surely the the same should also apply to the Vikings who managed to blow each other up? Both are deaths due to mistakes/carelessness. I dont see the difference:confused:

Gremlin

-ammo- · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2002, 07:02:51 AM »

well yes, but its water under the bridge now for both shane and the vikings. Basically what I am going to start doing is opening flight for a very brief amount of time in the beginning. I will ask CO's if they have squads that are roling a little late for mission effectiveness and I will accomodate those. Others will have a very short amount of time to get on the runway. I will anounce how much time you have in the event. I need CO's and participants to be honest more than anything. I told too amny people "no I am sorry you cannot reup" to have others be able to abd then let this happen regularly. If I was snorkey, oblittoo, etc, etc... that I told no on Saturday then I would be a little perturbed.

This is really hard for us to police up. First, if we are not made aware of it, then we just dont know till after the fact. The incident with the vikings was unfortunate. they certainly had an accident and it killed all of them for the most part. If I had been made aware of it at that time I probably would have allowed them to roll again, simply because it would have ruined the gameplay for the opposing squad set in the design to meet them. and given the nature of the event. Buit now I dont know. Seeing all the comments from fellow vet CM's and players makes me think. However for those that are quick to dole out judgement, put yourself in the shoews of the vikings on Saturday, what would you have us do?

There is some basic stuff for aprticipants to have to know. They gotta be profficient at taking off, landing, known graghics issues, patience.... If you want to rush and take a shortcut, then expect murphy to strike. Murphy's law is definately in effect in TOD.

Know that for 2-part missions that require you to jettison ord for part 1, that you CAN release bombs on the runway without a problem, but this does not include rockets and guns. Make sure that yoiu have selected the correct weapon. Also make sure before you hit that spawn buitton that you have the right loadout...mainly fuel. Dont ask CM's to let you reup becauise you forgot one of these basic things.