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Offline lazs2

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« on: January 28, 2002, 12:46:28 PM »
Face it..  you're not cutting it as an arena.   changing dar settings a mile or two or icon range a few feet one way or the other isn't  gonna change that.   Hopeless???

naa... what you need , or, what any seperate arena needs , is the ability to toggle between maps and select a field to take off from.    A squad is flying in the MA and one of the members on RW anounces "check out the Ct, there is a hhuge fight at __" .   A lone wolf is tired of hjaving no fight available in the MA that isn''t a gangbang of "organized" mayhem... He toggles the map and sees a good fight between two CT fields and a planeset he can live with...   Simple click and he's there...

Seamless selection.   No "leave one arena, sign on on another and check it out then try to convince your buddies to come over"...  
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2002, 01:28:29 PM »
That ideas soooo crazy, it's GOTTA work!!!:eek:

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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2002, 02:24:39 PM »
Lazs,
Come to the CT.
Hogs a plenty!
Fight KIs, Zekes and 202s!
Have yet to see anything more dangerous than a Zero!
And if your willing to drive a Hellcat,
There's lots of fast action, CV to base fights/furballs!
Toughened CVs and very few big bombers mean furballs last forever!
And theres just enough guys with tempers for you to piss off!

This CT was made for you, and is probably the closest thing that you will ever see to your dream arena...

Come to where the F4U-1 is in its element!

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2002, 02:48:26 PM »
eskimo..  I log on to AH.   411 in MA 12 in CT.   I have no idea what the fight in the CT is.   I am pretty sure I can save some time and just log onto the MA and find a fite..  

I am in the MA and with a couple of squaddies.   We are finding some good some not so good fights.   My two hours are up.   I am not about to "quit" AH.. log onto another arena, look around log out again and back onto MA if there was nothing in the CT.  Nor do I want to log out and try to convince my buddies that there is a fite worth having in the CT.

Call me lazy but....  pragmatic is more accurate.   Don't go by what should be the reality go by what is the reality.   Begging for people to show up is not the way.   Make it easy for people to show up and easy for em to leave if they don't like it.   if something is happening they will stay...  if not they wont feel that they are stuck in a toejam arena anmd just wasted their time.   Waste peoples time and you leave a bad taste in their mouth.  

but do what you want... maybe if you made the tbm a stuka substitute it  would fix everything?
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2002, 03:43:08 PM »
Lazs,
I avoided the CT for the very reasons that you have pointed out.
What I have found out is; that it doesn't take 400, or even 40 folks in an arena to have a blast.  The last time I flew, there were only about a dozen, at the most, guys in the CT.  But it didn't matter.  We had a great fight for quite awhile, never a lack of enemy planes.   I fell in love with the Hellcat and found that it can be one heck of a deadly ride when opposed only by KIs, A6Ms and 202s.
Forget the numbers, just log in, find the fight, and furball till the cows come home.
Try it, you may be surprised.

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Put the title of whatever is happining in the selection screen..
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2002, 05:06:38 PM »
yeah

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2002, 05:27:57 PM »
Could work....if HTC finds the time for the code, AND if there is no risk that this feature screws everybody's connection, I'm for it.

OTOH, Lazs, you should at least ONCE give the CT a try during this setup, if CT numbers are 10+, and even if there are gazillions of people just beginning their 2-weeks free period in the MA. After an hour you'll be able to say if you like it or no. This hour is all you're risking.

Hell, I've even given mindless furballing a try in MA from time to time those last weeks.....
« Last Edit: January 28, 2002, 05:30:13 PM by deSelys »
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2002, 09:05:02 PM »
Lazs,
Your $15 gets you into both/all arenas.
No one is "stuck" in one arena.
I timed with a stopwatch how long it takes to switch arenas...
9 to 13 seconds.
Even by your impatient sense of time, this is not very long.

Lazs,
Suppose that HTC let you design your own arena, and you finally got to do things your way, however you wanted, and HTC offered only 2 arenas, the Main and Lazs' Furball World.
How many people would have to be logged into your arena before you would be willing to fly in it?  What if there were only 10 or 20?  Would you log in?  I say you wouldn't.
Why?  Because you are too in-tune with the in-crowd.  
That's right, as outspoken as you are, it's more important to you be part of a mob.
Do you see the irony Lazs?
You want so much to change with Aces High, but yet you are only willing to hang out at the popular place, where things are done the way they are to please the majority.

How much of a chance have you given the CT?
I bet not much.
Why?  Because you might risk wasting some of your precious sim time (even though you admit that it can be a bit dull at times).
Not much of a risk-taker, are you Lazs?
You like to fly the same plane, in the same places, in the same manner, again and again.
Your Sim-Life time could be better, but that would mean that you would have to risk making a tiny change, even just for an hour or two, with how you have grown so comfortable at playing.

You Lazs, are afraid of change.

Personally, I'd rather be flying right now, but the CT is busted.
I'd actually rather waste my time typin-for-nothin, then go back into the main.
After flying in the CT lately, I know that the main would be a disappointment by comparison, by my standards and opinion of fun.

There's a Big-Blue-Bent-Winged-Bird waiting in the CT for you Lazs,
Think about it...

eskimo

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2002, 09:13:33 PM »
Ya know Laz, when your right, your right.  You dont belong in the CT, it aint for you, stay in the MA right where you belong.  And while we're at it, why do you even bother to post on this board?  Quite clearly you're endless whit and superb creative problem solving abilities deserve the much wider audiance of the general board.  Pleaee dont let us keep you from your true calling.  Cya, have a nice trip, don't let the door hit ya in the bellybutton on the way out.

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2002, 08:38:41 AM »
LOL... I wonder how many reading this understand what is being said by me at all but....  Perhaps I don't belong in the CT.  You are right.  Perhaps it should be difficult to try out simply to keep the untalented riff raff like myself out.   Maybe you guys deserve to fail.

That being the case... why bother to whine and plead like girls in the ma or on the general discussion group for people to come play with yu?   last night..   420 in the ma 5 in CT.   Yeah.... extend the radar range a half mile.... that will bring in the truely dedicated 'realism' crowd.  maybe you guys deserve to fail

Look... MOST don't give a squat one way or the other about "historical" plane sets.  All they see is another limitation.   They can ignore the limitation if..... there is something fun happening.   If there is somerthing fun happening where they are at tho or if it looks like there may soon be.... they won't log out... log back on to another arena with 4-15 people on it in order to fly whatever limited planeset is "allowed" them to be immersed by flyintg a 202 against Corsairs..    Why should they?

What the hell do you think is happening here?   Do you think that people just don't know about you?   That your "name" isn't appealing enough?  do you think that there is a vast pool of people out there that would escew fun and choice in order to fly hellcats against 202's but they just haven't heard of you yet?   Heck... you even lose your core LW (all 109/190 all the time) guys during PAC  times.   What?   Once they try it they will like it?  LOL you should be gaining in numbers with all the people that have tried it and would rather lose an eye than go back to the MA.

No.. face it.   you need to tap into the vast pool of fun flyers that populate the MA.   You need to make it so easy for them to get into the CT that a certain percentage of that vast pool is allways in the CT.   Not the same guys probly but still... a percentage.  Or...

you can continue to build up your core of good natured well reasoned elitists with new features guarenteed to lure in new guys who don't know what they want right now by moving dar settings around and taking jabs at the MA on the general discussion board and in the MA itself.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2002, 08:49:47 AM »
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Ya know Laz, when your right, your right.  You dont belong in the CT, it aint for you, stay in the MA right where you belong.  And while we're at it, why do you even bother to post on this board?  Quite clearly you're endless whit and superb creative problem solving abilities deserve the much wider audiance of the general board.  Pleaee dont let us keep you from your true calling.  Cya, have a nice trip, don't let the door hit ya in the bellybutton on the way out.

CRASH


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« Last Edit: January 29, 2002, 08:59:08 AM by Ripsnort »

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2002, 08:51:45 AM »
How's the fishing Lazs?  Only 6 or 7 replies? Hmm, better bait.

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2002, 08:58:43 AM »
That's the longest post I've seen you make Lazs. I can see the CT is near and dear to his heart and we will do our best to make it succeed. Thanks for the advice. :)

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2002, 10:42:49 AM »
Do you guys really want numbers?

No.

Not as an goal itself. I like CT atmosphere. I could care less if there are 100, 200+ people around. I'm having a blast there with as little as 10 guys. Of course the more, the better, but I just don't want to get it at the price of easy quasi-MA mode  :p  :D

Lazs, you have your fit in MA. Please, ask there to eliminate buffs, to have indestructable fields, extend radar range, whatever you like, do it. But do it where it belongs, not in CT.

I am not a representative of any of CT players, but myself. And my personal experience there has been great. The average skill is superior to MA. The average behaviour is better than MA. I'm not saying it's perfect but, at least for me, is much better than MA.

You guys that feel at home with MA settings have MA for you all. The ones that feel different about that, now have an alternative.

Btw, the more I read this thread, the more I think Ripsnort has it right ;)

Cheers,

Pepe

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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2002, 11:05:02 AM »
LOL... 6-7 replies is a HUGE response on this board.    Hell.... any response is proof of life on this board.

ripsnore... finally gave up and just cut, paste and add huge sig eh?   Well... when ya got nothing to say I guess a sig file is as good as anything.

look guys... I ain't asking you to change anything..  you can continue to  get anal about every yard of dar coverage.   There would be NO change in any setting in your precious "elite" arena.  

 Now, if as some say, you really don't want anyone to come to your arena..... Well, that's a different story.   It's just with all the begging and hand wringing about lack of numbers...I got the wrong impression.    
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