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fdiron · « **Reply #15 on:** February 02, 2002, 03:00:23 AM »

Correct Answer is X-15. The Foxbats werent quite as fast as the Sr71. The Russians had to launch the Foxbats ahead of an incomming Sr71 in order to intercept it. Also, after every attempted SR71 intercept, the Foxbats had to replace their engines.

DarkglamJG52 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2002, 07:07:38 AM »

ferkelparade

have reason. The plane called 109 R was really a 209 v1. The 209 flyded by Fritz Wendel take 755km/h at April 1939. Wendel said about the airplane"it is a tiny monstrosity ".

Wilbus · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2002, 07:28:58 AM »

LW never the less

Better go read up on the 209, too bad it never made it in the war, like so many other LW uber planes under development.

jan · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2002, 08:46:53 AM »

the f-22 isn´t the fastest, but one of most the expensive (estimated total cost of all 648 planes: >$99.1 billion. the b-2 'spirit' program is estimated at >$290 billion). it´s being build to replace the f-15. apparently the f-22 is 'slightly' slower than the eagle - top afterburner speed is 921 mph for the raptor, while the eagle does 1,875 mph.

the key features of the raptor are: 1.) it´s stealth capability - when the enemy can´t locate your plane, there is no need to go mach 2+. 2.) manoevrablity. the f-22 is extremly agile with a roll rate of about 100ø/s roll rate at 120 knots and a cruising speed of mach1.58 .

ferkelparade · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2002, 09:45:37 AM »

Wilbus: I read somewhere that there were experiments to use the 209 in the war, but nothing ever came if it...anybody know more about that?
I don't know how the 209 would have performed as a fighter, it was basically constructed to fly in a straight line (just look at the double rudder), don't know what that would mean for roll rate etc

fdiron · « **Reply #20 on:** February 03, 2002, 02:19:22 AM »

Theres no need for the F22 in my opinion. Better ground attack aircraft are needed. Also, as a former Green Berete colonel said on CNN, billions of dollars are being spent of fighter aircraft while ground soldiers still use antequated equipment (such as extremely bulky and heavy radios).

Wilbus · « **Reply #21 on:** February 03, 2002, 04:52:26 AM »

Hey Ho Ferkel

Read up some more on it, it was designed as a high altitude high speed fighter, and was suposed to be the a fighter plane of its own, however, the TA152 beat it and the 209 was canceled when only a few prototypes had flown.

Allso, do add to the jet discussion, you guys are foregetting some planes

The Swedish JA37 Viggen (JA = Fighter Attack) is most likely amongst the fastest fighter planes, it has never been run on full power (pilots aren't alowed to during peace time) and yet, they've never made it stop accelerating, they've had it up to speed above mach 2.5.
Another key factor not to run it on 100% throttle is that, since it is a defencive plane, it haven't got alot of fuel, and on full throttle its fuel last for 5 minutes.

ferkelparade · « **Reply #22 on:** February 03, 2002, 01:26:21 PM »

It was? My sources tell me it was specifically designed for the speed record flight, the attempts to use it as a fighter seemed to be a last-ditch effort mainly because the design was already around, and it really didn't turn or roll too well, so the idea was canned quickly...bbut I'll gladly learn more about it if you can provide some sources

Sorry, can't contribute much to the jet discussion, if it doesn't have a prop, I don't wanna fly it (that's a question of style

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-lynx- · « **Reply #23 on:** February 04, 2002, 06:31:43 AM »

Hate to burst your bubble gents with X15 - any shuttle whether US or Russian beats measly 6-odd Machs with something like 5 miles/sec (24-odd Machs if my maths work;)) max speed needed to leave Earth's gravity well. It's got wings hence it qualifies:D:D

What a dummy - just read the FDIron's post properly - sorry:)

Wmaker · « **Reply #24 on:** February 04, 2002, 02:01:29 PM »

IMO X-15 isn't exactly an aircraft. It achieved its top speed at 250 000ft which is pretty much space to me. A book that I have tough states it as "high speed high-altitude research aircraft". But a vehicle with rocket motor as its primary source of propulsion is not an "aircraft" to me. IMO X-15 is "the fastest man made vehicle which is steered by human when in its top speed".

So, IMO Locheed SR-71 Blackbird is the fastest aircraft in the world as many sources state it is.

Sombra · « **Reply #25 on:** February 04, 2002, 02:35:56 PM »

Wilbus, Ferkelparade, hope this helps:

http://www.adlertag.de/flugzeuge/projekteeng.html

I have seen drawings of the 209's on the net, but I'm too lazy to search now

Greetings

Broes · « **Reply #26 on:** February 04, 2002, 03:10:22 PM »

SR 71: Able to take off from ground BY ITSELF, fly around for a long time and land. It used wing lift and is re-usable.

X15: Lifted up in the air by a bomber (b29 afaik), dropped and the 1 million horsepower rocket is ignited and burns very shortly but enough to reach mach 6.7 before things get to hot.
X15 is no plane but a rocket with stubby wings, it can't take off unaided and any ultralight plane will get you further given enough patience

The Spaceshuttle is a Spacecraft with the ability to GLIDE (can hardly call it flying) back to earth and land. Gimme a brick with a firecracker rocket attached to it and while sending it from space to earth will also get you faster then the SR71 but still wont make it into a plane

Broesy

Replicant · « **Reply #27 on:** February 04, 2002, 04:49:37 PM »

Could the Space Shuttle be classed as an aircraft, and if so, how fast could that do?

Nexx

Soulyss · « **Reply #28 on:** February 04, 2002, 08:35:11 PM »

I seem to remember reading an article with a SR-71 pilot and when they asked him what would they do if the soviets beat their record the pilot replied by saying that they would go back up there and press down the accelerator a little more. [

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fdiron · « **Reply #29 on:** February 04, 2002, 08:47:18 PM »

What kind of endurance does the SR71 have at Mach3? Anyone have any numbers on the range of the Blackbird?

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