Make the late war monster more rare!!!

[Skysix1]

I just joined full time AH but I am not planning on living on AH.  I may get 1-2 days a week to fly so I am starting to feel cheated because it will take me forever to gain enough points to fly anything good.  And by Then the B-29 would be out and the Ar234 would be free or cheap. and I would have flown the Ju88's wings off trying to earn perkies.  

Maybe make another arena for the "late war" planes where there not perked.  This way guys who only come in once and a while can still fly them with more than 7 other people.  

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Chuck Perry   
"Sky61"

[AKSeaWulfe]

I've seen the counter-point to perks about how newbies will be faced with a greater challenge and it usually  trails off into a few paragraphs of cow pies.


Okay, am *I* the only one flying in the arena that actually takes note of how many perk planes are in any given area?

Sorry guys, newbies are not faced with a greater challenge. Okay, so they have a small margin of chance that they'll run into someone in a tempest or in a Ta152. Does it really matter? Chances are if they run into that particular person, say Vulcan for example, in a Typhoon instead of a Tempest they will meet the same fate... death by 4 hispanos. It's absolutely rediculous to believe that it will be any different to a newbie when perk planes are rare. Unless I'm flying in some alternate reality arena where the most abundant plane I've run into since 1.06 was released is the Dora-9. Out of 40 people fighting at A19 the other day, I saw _THREE_ Tempests in _FOUR_ hours. I can list the pilot's names off the top of my head. Vulcan, Superfly and NateDog.

Perk planes pose no more of a threat than regular planes to a newbie. In case you haven't noticed, the planes don't have super abilities and require a lot of skill/finesse to fly them. The Tempest? If you have problems killing a Typhoon, then I feel for ya. It's just a faster Typhoon.

The Ta-152? The Dora-9 flies better than that at low alt where ALL of the fighting takes place.

Those are the _TWO_ perk fighters we have, and already you are projecting the future that newbies will have problems facing these?

What about the La7? N1K2? F4U-1C? P51D? Fw-190D9? All of those planes pose far more of a threat to a newbie than our TWO perk fighters.
-SW

[Fishu]

Funny, I see something familiar in here..

Now it's not the LW complaining of über allied planes, but its the others now.

Like others said, Kirin isn't taking into count that they've saved up their perk points for long time.

[Virage]

I suggest reading the cow pies before eaten them, they are much better that way.

[Rifle]

That's funny !

The Hawker Tempest served in  how many combat squadrons in NW Europe before 1 May 45 ?

And the F4U-c1 saw 200 a/c that ALMOST made combat ?

Nothing like perking the a/c that actually saw combat more than the one that almost did  

Cheers,
     Rifle

[Karnak]

I like the current selection of aircraft that are and are not perked, except for the F4U-1C, which I still believe should be a cheap perk.

I don't think that the LW, USAAF, VVS or IJN are over or under powered as it stands now.

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Sisu
-Karnak

[mrniel]

OK. Im a about average pilot, and usually
get a kill every 2 flight.
If I land that kill Ill get a average 1 perk
 point every 2 mission. (not counting the
ones I don't land and get less ).
That means Ill have to fly 140 missions just
to get 1 perk plane. That can be lost in 1 mission -70.
140. missions. TO expensive in my opinion.
a perk plane should be available to the
average pilot, having done max 50 missions.
about 25 points.

mrniel

[Skysix1]

 

Originally posted by mrniel:
TO expensive in my opinion.
a perk plane should be available to the
average pilot, having done max 50 missions.
about 25 points.

mrniel

So if I fly 4-5 missions a week in a fighter and not get shot down I may be able to have enough perk points to fly a perk fighter in 5-10 weeks?  

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Chuck Perry   
"Sky61"

[Fishu]

I agree, seems bit too expensive - specially for paying customers who dont play much.

[J_A_B]

I have to add some input..

This round, I have had an account since mid-February.  I played as much as I had time for.

It was just TODAY that I finally had enough PP's to afford a Tempest, if I wanted one.  I still have no vehicle or bomber perks, aside from those I got dueing a reset.

This means, if I was going to keep my account forever, I would be able to fly a Perk Plane maybe once or twice per tour.

Making the perkplanes MORE expensive would essentially remove a part of the game from a lot of people's reach.  Not everyone has the time to fly 4-5 hours / day.

IMO perkplanes are a bad idea anyway.  If the plane is so unbalancing it needs to be "perked", it shouldn't even be in the arena anyway.  I never thought I would say this--but make 'em all free.  That, or don't put the perkplanes in the MA planeset, and instead keep them for special events.

I don't like perkplanes as it is.  They reward the people who can spend the most time online.  I would HATE it if they became even more expensive.

J_A_B

[Trell]

well i think i am an average ah user.
and i have 200 fighter perk points 67 bomber and about 10 vec.  i think the amountthey cost is just about right sooo far.


Trell

[Carlos]

Porked points system is stupid.
The best to discouraging new people to sign up.
After the two months saved PP been spent, only a few will fly these planes.
The mix up of a Tempest with a 109-F is so unrealistic that looks like a X-files episode.
It seems that HT and his gang of crawlers, the very well known group of players who is always buttering him up, want to keep this a "private" game. At this pace they will get it soon. The Porked Points is a great advance in this direction.
It only could be solved if a RPS, à la WBs,is implemented. Everibody can fly anything, but in its due time.
Sad to see a nice sim being thrown to the cloaks

   

[HABICHT]

hi kirin,
no one will fly 190a5 when d9 is aviable, that's right.
mid war planes will only be used in a RPS system. but for that, IEN has to built SOME
EARLY WAR PLANES! ..maybe with 1.07?

with an RPS, fun will be back, for all. AH has now some beautifull late war monsters, but NO early war plane (ups ju88 is one).

most of the community, i know, would agree with me. more early and mid war planes-> usable RPS-> fun.
all WB veteran know it. it's FUN to fight with spit1, 109Emil and P40.

So, HTC pls work on these and more planes.

Habicht aka wastel


[This message has been edited by HABICHT (edited 03-11-2001).]

[StSanta]

As long as the A5 remains unperked, I'll have a plane to fly  .

But I'll fly my new love, the D9, until I can't due to low perkies in case it gets perked  .

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[Kirin]

Heya Habicht, you troll! HTC did AH not IEN...  

Ok, I might have been over with the prices...   but my main intention still stands!

New price suggestion:
Ta152: 70 perkies
Tempest: 100 perkies

190D9,P51D,CHog,N1K2,109G10,La7, Yak9: around 10-25 perkies...

Why do we have those early/mid war plane when we don't encourage people to use em? RPS - fine with me; I'll find a good ride in any epoch. The way the MA planeset is right now we face a late war enviroment.

About the newbie issue: what Wulfe said... plus I find the CHog not a good plane to learn your flying skills because it requires not much...   If a new player starts with it he might settle with the Ueber-Hispanos and will be dearly disapointed when trying out anything else. I earned my wings on the 109 - a hard and painful way but very rewarding (especially since there is no ammo to waste...   )