While Eagler's veiw matches mine as the loss of the extra hat etc is a pain . I love the ff2's center compared to the x36 that it replaced . Plus while not "shaking" near as much as in CFS 1 and 2 , the "buffet" effect saved my bellybutton the other night
I got to 540 mph and the stick started to buzz some , while I usually watch the speedo I wasn't this time

, so quickly I back off a bit and didn't compress .
I did get my first 5 kill sortie with this stick the first day I used it (Sat), and then again on Sunday . The center control is so much better than my x 36 was .
Now I don't use the x45 , so this is mute , isn't it ? BUT , I wouldn't use the FFB2 without a throttle . Also wish they would have a option to "lock" the twist on the stick .
Eagler , I miss the other hat also . But my shooting is so much better now .
I tried to get my old Ch Pro analog throttle to work on this pc but have mb , keyboard pass through problems

I liked that throttle the best , was compfy to rest your hand on , hehe .
take care all
spro