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« on: February 05, 2002, 07:55:36 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2002, 08:52:27 PM »
These never show up for me till the next day.

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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2002, 09:27:25 PM »
I am sory that I have been forced to use 50meg's dot com for my picture storage, after I post a pic it takes about 10 to 30 min for it to apper, somtimes longer, I hope MSN get's it toejam together so I can use them again, hopefully this will not go on much longer.

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2002, 09:44:41 PM »
Panzerbefehlswagen M41 771(i)/ Panzerbefehlswagen M42 772 (i)
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2002, 11:52:13 PM »
Nath said:
Panzerbefehlswagen M41 771(i)/ Panzerbefehlswagen M42 772 (i)


Nope, that's what the noisy neighbors in the north called them:p

M13/40 with turret removed as a tractor/scout

Semovente da 75/18

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2002, 11:54:26 PM »
its a pile of crap :)

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2002, 09:26:21 AM »
Look at that vision slit. With the hatch closed, you should be able to see pretty much *nothing* when bumping around all over the terrain.

I'm glad I'm not an Italian tanker and this is 1941.

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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2002, 10:58:39 AM »
Ah! Those "magnificent men in their iron soapboxes"...:(

BTW the semovente 75/18 was the only Italian "Tank" of wich the British had really respect for as it was a very small target and its 75/18 cannon was very dangerous.:)

As for the other tanks, they were self-propelled tombs...

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2002, 08:15:06 PM »
Carro Commando (M13/40 chassis) and Semovente da 75/18's, they are:)

  The Semovente da 75/18's were realy not all that bad, very comparable in terms of overall efectaveness to the Stug. III.

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2002, 06:05:34 AM »
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Originally posted by brady
The Semovente da 75/18's were realy not all that bad, very comparable in terms of overall efectaveness to the Stug. III.


Uh..say what?

Lets see, the StuG IIIG (I assume you are comparing it to the IIIG, or did you mean any earlier variant of the StuG?) has:
better armor,
better quality of weldings and metal quality in armor,
better gun,
better ammo for that gun,
better MG's,
better manuverability,
better durability,
higher speed,
better optics,
better range,
better escape routes for crew,
better vision from inside (vision slits as well as prismas),
a radio.

The Semovente has:
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2002, 11:06:17 AM »
here some links about the semovente da 75/18 and other Italian *armor* of WWII. In fact, the semovente da 75/18 wasn't that bad, expecially due to its gun.


http://www.onwar.com/tanks/italy/fsem751840.htm

http://www.irvania.com/downloads/TBOTItaly.pdf

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Italy/ItalianSelfPropelledGuns.html

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Italy/italy.html

hope the links work, otherwise old "copy & paste method"

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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2002, 12:47:18 PM »
i thought it was just a saying that Italian tanks have 1 gear forward, and 5 gears back, LOL

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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2002, 08:11:57 PM »
Hortlund, I was speaking in a very general since, comperable does not mean better.

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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2002, 02:19:00 AM »
Żeah, I know what you mean. Perhaps I was unfair to dive down on you like that. I had a slow day at work :)

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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2002, 05:14:52 AM »
Ben, are you referring to the uniqe ability of the AB40 to drive in both directions (forward & backward) at all speeds, having two driving seats (one per each direction), or are you just trolling around? :rolleyes:

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