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Offline thrila

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« on: February 08, 2002, 02:07:03 PM »
Just curious why anyone has anything to say about the CT it gets posted in this forum.
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Offline K West

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2002, 02:11:17 PM »
Probably for the same reason complaints about the Mindanao map don't get posted in the Gameplay forum or posts about having bad days in AH aren't in the OC or Training/Help ones.

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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2002, 02:13:29 PM »
Ok, i'm gonna get you for that Westy:D
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Something like it's elder brother-
Wing tips rounded, spinner's bigger.
Unbraced tailplane ends it's figure.
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Offline Arfann

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2002, 02:15:27 PM »
thrila, if you'll ck the CT forum you'll find lots of specifically CT posts.  Since CT is obviously part of AH, there's nothing wrong with mentioning it in General Discussion.

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2002, 09:47:33 AM »
Maybe the only people who read the CT forum are the same people who fly the CT arena.  So if you want more then 10 people to read your post, you post it in here.

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2002, 10:46:08 AM »
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Maybe the only people who read the CT forum are the same people who fly the CT arena.  So if you want more then 10 people to read your post, you post it in here.

bowser


LOL!

Sadly, he's right

Much why the CT folks advertise so heavily in the Main Arena.  Trying to draw people into there.

I'm not knocking the CT, its fine for what it is.  But I'm not into Historical MatchUps nor Axis-vs-Allies stuff.  If it was similar to the Main, minus limited planesets and many other things that are annoying about the Main, I think more people would visit it.

But the CT staff/folks are clicky.  They want ideas but I've yet to see them implement a lot of things people have been asking.  They have their Historical Fight blinders on  :rolleyes:

And for that reason, I don't think you'll see that room have much more than 50 players in there at a time.

Where would you play? 20 players or 450?

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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2002, 02:01:07 PM »
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But the CT staff/folks are clicky.  They want ideas but I've yet to see them implement a lot of things people have been asking.  They have their Historical Fight blinders on  :rolleyes:


Which "they" would you be talking about?  Which ideas that all these people want aren't they implimenting?  Or have they just not designed it with you specifically in mind?

I flew for my first time in the CT with it's new setup on Tuesday.  If the numbers persist, I'll probably be choosing it over the MA on any given day, and I couldn't give two toejams about historical.  It's just fun.


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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2002, 05:51:23 PM »
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Originally posted by LePaul
But the CT staff/folks are clicky.  They want ideas but I've yet to see them implement a lot of things people have been asking.  They have their Historical Fight blinders on  :rolleyes:

And for that reason, I don't think you'll see that room have much more than 50 players in there at a time.


Yeah buddy. That's why I had every plane that's available in this game included my setup this past week? My historical blinders? That's why we (the CT staff) increased radar range a few weeks back? We have our backs turned to what the people want?

CT Staff is *clicky* huh?

If you're going to try to paint us with the big wide brush, please have some idea to what you're talking about. I don't mind being accused of things, if they're at least half-truths.

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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2002, 11:46:35 PM »
Oh goody, I touched a nerve.  Must be all these posts from Lazs rubbing off on me  :)  I didn't think you were so thin-skinned, HBlair.

I stand by my comments.  Lots of people made suggestions for the Combat Theater.  You guys turned it into a Historial Arena and you got few and any visitors.  THEN, you decided to heed some of the things people asked the first time around.  You still have very low numbers.  HOWEVER, you have implemented a few things people wanted (all planes, low perks, etc etc).

What annoys me is the shameless plugging of this arena in the Main Arena.  You guys are quick to diss the Main Arena, yet some go in there and do all they can to drag in some business for it.  ...

People go where the numbers are.  If you call 20-30 players a smashing success, well, congrats.  If you are hoping for greater numbers, then perhaps opening up the CT to something more similar to the Main is what people want?  I just popped in...35 players and its again Axis versus Allies stuff again.  Not my cup of tea, so I'll go play where there are 410 players.

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2002, 12:17:13 AM »
LePaul....you sure know how to make friends

Seriously....people are tending to think that the CT people (hblair, et al) are doing a good job

The number have been growing in the CT.  I remember when my favorite person (Las(x)) was in the CT forum and taunting everyone that if we wanted more than 20 people we would do this and do that...

IMHO....the MA sucks unless you enjoy enless furballs...I'm not a stickler for historical realities (i.e. planes) but I really do prefer the CT.

Funny thing is...Las says we suck because we don't play the way he plays (OMG...there are buffs in this game...well we JUST CAN'T have that)...then we suck because we don't have numbers in the CT...then we suck because we are elitist and don't fly the MA...and then we suck just because Las says so...

Las not withstanding...I'm enjoying seeing the CT number increasing...it's not elitisism...it's just a simple matter of enjoying something more than an endless furball.

Anway....my thoughts

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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2002, 12:20:21 AM »
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Oh goody, I touched a nerve.  Must be all these posts from Lazs rubbing off on me  :)  I didn't think you were so thin-skinned, HBlair.


Not thin skinned, I just go for the truth, not whatever pops off the top of your head.

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I stand by my comments.  Lots of people made suggestions for the Combat Theater.  You guys turned it into a Historial Arena and you got few and any visitors.  THEN, you decided to heed some of the things people asked the first time around.  You still have very low numbers.  HOWEVER, you have implemented a few things people wanted (all planes, low perks, etc etc).


The CT was an HA from the get-go. That's what it is. We've been experimenting for a while with different setups. We want numbers. Always have. We're trying to strike a happy medium between numbers and realism settings (or perceived realism).

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What annoys me is the shameless plugging of this arena in the Main Arena.  You guys are quick to diss the Main Arena, yet some go in there and do all they can to drag in some business for it.  ...


There you go with that big wide brush again. *You* guys eh? How many times have you seen me in the MA in the past 2 months? One sortie? I can't ever recall plugging the CT in the MA.

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People go where the numbers are.  If you call 20-30 players a smashing success, well, congrats.  If you are hoping for greater numbers, then perhaps opening up the CT to something more similar to the Main is what people want?  I just popped in...35 players and its again Axis versus Allies stuff again.  Not my cup of tea, so I'll go play where there are 410 players.

2 cents


So you think it shouldn't be axis vs. allies? And that'd bring people in huh? Lets just make it a carbon copy of the MA and people will go there? Convenient vagueness. Always easy to throw rocks from the sidelines, not so easy when you're the one trying to get it done.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2002, 12:29:34 AM »
BTW, when you see people slam the MA, it's not me or any of the other staff guys. The MA is for MA pilots, the CT is for people who desire the CT. The CT will not ever have the attendance the MA does, that's not what we're shooting for. It's an alternative to the MA. So when you see someone down the MA, remember we don't all think that way. They're just two different servers set up two different ways for people with different tastes.

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2002, 01:08:41 AM »
Damn, LePaul.. you tryin to do a Lazhole imitation post? He shows significantly more class and at least offers substance and suggestions.. so, yer gonna have to work a lil harder to make the mark.

Just curious.. who toejam in yer cream of wheat today?

And just how much skin came off yer bellybutton to make the CT what it is?

Hey, if yah like the MA, well; great! Fly there! Enjoy! Have fun!

If yah don't like the CT, well hell.. don't fly there.. ain't nobody holdin a pistolio to yer bungholio tellin you yer sorry lil brown eye is gonna have another enlargement session if yah don't... so why the wail?

Have a nice day in the MA, now; hear?

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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2002, 02:16:22 AM »
Errm, excuse me LePaul , but I think the exact oposite...
We had about 5-15 poeple in there at best about 1-2 months ago.

the CT Staff  (Insert wide brush here) made it happen, they're putting in what we're asking them on the CT forum & we're getting numbers (60+  last night at one point).

Sorry, but this is my POV  & I'm standin' with it bud :)

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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2002, 12:38:37 PM »
My my, who to respond to first....

Drunky:  I love making new friends  :D I also enjoy a good discussion.  My post here was pointing out that the CT proponents tend to post here, and blabber in their despised MA looking to draw people into their Arena.  I'm not saying HBlair has done so, I am saying that its not unusual to see someone on channel one to start chanting "Hey folks, go to the Combat Theater" etc etc  Given what the arena is, its nice *if* you seek Historical Fights.  Not all of us do.  

The question of how to get more people into the CT has been poised many times in here.  By suggestioning a wider planeset and more realism, I've banged heads with what the CT folks desire.  Fine, I respect their opinions.

No one toejam in my cream of wheat or pissed in my coffee  :)

But we keep going into this cycle of "What do people want" to get more numbers into arenas outside the Main Arena.  The furballers wanted a dueling arena.  It now sits vacant.   I'm hoping the CT doesn't end with the same fate.  Pyro asking several of you to manage it into something else was a great idea, as the CT was dying for several weeks.

If the Combat Theater is a Historical Arena, then name it so, since that is what it truly is.  And if you Historical guys can make that room a success, all the power to you.  I prefer to fly where there are more people.

And as a buff driver, I have a solemn duty to "ruin lazs   fun".  So everytime he sees a large Lancaster shadow over his base, he can commence with crying and pissing himself   :D

I wish you guys well with the CT as you have it going.  I've made my wishes known, as have others.  Hopefully you guys will be receptive to them.