Author Topic: Question about AC performance (Read 237 times)

rabbit · « **on:** February 09, 2002, 02:44:22 AM »

Where did HiTech get the performance data for the axis aircraft?

was it from US data from post war flight tests?
and what was the octane of the fuel used in them. because i know that the US used a hotter fuel in their aircraft.

where the axis didnt ( from what i understand)

so this would throw off the performance numbers in a big way.

not digging.. im just curious. because some of these axis and russki planes run too darn good.

Thanks

Wotan · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2002, 04:16:36 AM »

it would be easier for us to grasp what problems you are having if you tell us what axis/vvs planes you think are "running to good" compared to what us/allied planes.

I fly only axis planes so I am not familiar with vvs or the us planeset. But I've been whooped by most of umm.

Failure to fly a given aircraft to its strengths when in battle with someone who does can make it "seem" as if xxx plane is uber when in most circumstances its the pilot.

There is no substitute for time "in plane".

The yak9 lafn and la7 are killers any mistake you make fighting them will get you shot down. The george (n1k2) is a heck of a plane and it takes a bit of discipline to kill them consistantly.

Lots of folks around here test ah planes against rl data and by far from what I've read everything "seems" real close. There are some anomalies in each planeset but nothing that can't be overcome with proper tactics.

It would be smarter to address your tactics and improve your judgement then attempt to get the fm changed. Any plane in ah has the potential to make you unkillable if flown correctly.

Good Luck....

rabbit · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2002, 04:27:29 AM »

no sorry you misunderstood

i was wondering where the RL data came from?

was it axis data captured that the FM was based on?
or, was it US data obtained from flight testing captured aircraft using american fuel? because with differences in the octane of the fuels (allied/axis) there would be a difference.

I read that the Japaneese used a lower octane fuel. that is why their aircraft perform to their potential as they were tested after the war.

As for tactical stuff im fine thanks. i still have mucho to learn but for the most part all is well in that departmant. thanks though.

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Kweassa · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2002, 06:37:31 AM »

Well, quite frankly I don't think anybody else thinks the
"axis and russki planes run too darn good." If you are curious or
suspicious about something that you may think "axis and russki
planes run too darn good", we need to know what it is, before we
go into the all-too-common "well, according to my sources..." routine.

Because most likely, these sort of suspicions turn out wrong. (Well,
yeah, some questions proved valid, and got fixed, but compared to
all those other questions.....)

Wotan · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2002, 08:40:08 AM »

kweassa hit on the head

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some of these axis and russki planes run too darn good.

well which ones? compared to what allieds planes?

theres been threads that addressed your question as to where they got their data I dont remember.

My point is there is enough data out there where if you feel something

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runs too darn good

that you can test any plane you have a question about in ah and post your sources and test results.

You seem to have an idea that

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some of these axis and russki planes run too darn good.

My point to your contention is not that the axis/vvs planes are overmodeled but that you have encountered folks who know how to fly their planes. And before I would state "you modelled this or that plane wrong" I would first look for tactics that are usefull and work on them.

This takes me back to my original question.

what lw/vvs planes are giving you trouble? and what allied plane are these axis/vvs planes so much better then?

If I knew this I could offer you what little knowledge I have to help you overcome your percieved disadvantage.

Theres numerous threads about the ah fm. I dont recall if htc every said specifically where he got his data. He may not want to to protect any copy rights but from what several ah players have tested I am satisfied with the overall fm.

Anyway I fly them "uber" lw planes

so I'm biased

Hooligan · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2002, 10:45:40 AM »

Rabbit:

For FW-190s I have seen German test data, American, British (and a teensy bit of Russian) test data on captured aircraft, and I am not in the flight sim business. I am sure that HTC has seen a LOT more test data than I have. No doubt they have and use data from a wide variety of sources.

If you think certain aircraft perform too well, I'm sure that HTC would love to see the data you have that supports this position. If you have something they don't already have I am sure they would love to add it to their collection.

Hooligan

rabbit · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2002, 01:25:38 PM »

thank you hooligan!

was that simple