Realistic Instruments

[Apar]

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[Wilbus]

About 97% in the US above the age of 15 can read or write. Over 99% in Sweden above the age of 15 can read and write.

[Wilbus]

If we're gonna continue this discussion let' bring it to the O'club.

[Seeker]

Hard to see why there's even a discusion about this.

AH; and the AH community prides it's self on realism. That's why we have those arsebleedingly annoying radar/strat/CV tirades so regularly.

All that, and some people *want* fake cockpits?

Well, that's consistent....not!

That's immersive.....not!

Besides, unitary worries aren't really an issue in a well crafted cockpit; as pretty much the world over an instument needle at 12 o'clock is half way there, an instrument needle pegged at three o'clock is going flat out/full/too hot/ too high/take your pick.

 This isn't rocket science; are some people really trying to say they're computing IAS to TAS in their head in combat to see where their advantage is?

Now, different lettering (Russian, Jap)...that I could understand being  ----> <----- of a problem......but if yanks managed it in Spain, France, Britain and China then they can manage it in the comfort of their own home.

It's bringing the pilot into the equation.....almost as much fun as modelling fatigue!

[Creamo]

Wow, note to self, Seeker has some whipass BBS sense, and delivers the banter 10 fold. WTG.

Knock yourself out AKDeJa. It's all "roadkill" anyway. Explain the eye candy realism thing again?

[haa]

To get back on topic...

How hard can it be? Just introduce a toggle between mph/feet and km/h like the one for tracers on/off. Use the same gauges but scale the values for speed and climb before displaying them. No need to rebuild the whole 3d cockpit.

[CRASH]

Got a BA in Political Science, spent 4 years studying the rest of the world.  Some countries do some things better but all things considered no one even compares to the U.S. Political and Economic model, not even in the same league.  You and I both know that the statistics your quoting are faulty and not representative of the American experience for many reasons.  No need to be jealous, just move here like everyone else

CRASH

Originally posted by Wilbus
Crash, you guys obviously learn nothing about other countries in school either, you're so in love with your self that you can't see past your own nose, maybe if you guys spent some time learning about other countries, cultures, political system and humans, you would actually see that USA is not the center of the earth nor is it the most developed country in the world in any aspect, sure you got nukes, do you think that's a good thing?

How many people in % can read in the US? No matter what numbers you find there and ensure you that many countries will have FAR greater %. How many people are homeless in the US? How many people live on welfare? You call all these things good and highly developed? Once again, you only see as far as your own nose goes, you care nothing nor know nothing about the people who doesn't have the same standards as you, and yet, you call USA the perfect country?

How many % of the world uses Metric System? 70? 80? more?
Wich system was there first do you think? Which one is being used most? Wich one is being used by all scentists?

Please don't give me any crap about USA being the most developed perfect non faulty country of the world, you'll make me throw up.

Now, I've got nothing what so ever against USA, it's a good country overall, if it weren't for you guys over there who sacrifce your lives for Europe in two world wars, the earth would most likely be a much worse place, I don't meen to offend anyone, just burst the bubble of USA being free from errors for those of you who think that.

Going back to the real thread, Dejavu, if you were European you'd understand, obviously, you don't understand now. We don't think of 400Mph being pasat 600Km/h, we think of it as 400 and thus quite slow for a plane, it's got nothing to do with eyecandy, it's got to do with feeling.

[Wilbus]

Prove that they are faulty, show my the true numbers and I might belive you. You might have studied it for 4 years but to me it seems as if you learnt nothing. Were your teachers like this too?

If you wanna live in your little bubble believing USA is the top notch of the world when it comes to everything, sure, do that, some americans might agree with you but the rest of the world will just walk away laughing.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by CRASH
Got a BA in Political Science, spent 4 years studying the rest of the world.  Some countries do some things better but all things considered no one even compares to the U.S. Political and Economic model, not even in the same league.  You and I both know that the statistics your quoting are faulty and not representative of the American experience for many reasons.  No need to be jealous, just move here like everyone else

CRASH
 

You spent 4 years studying "the rest of the world", and this is what you "learned"? What were you doing when you were supposed to be in class?

Take this thread to the O club...I dare you...

[MANDOBLE]

4 years only for Political Science?? Is that a joke or still unfinished?

[SOB]

roadkille?  How do you know what's immersive for someone else?  For myself, the little things ARE immersive.  From the way the prop looks when it's spinning to the fact that the control surfaces show movement in the game when you move the stick.  I may not be checking out the control surfaces while I'm in combat, but you can bet your hairy heiny that I'm looking down at the guages to check at least my speed.  And hell, I just love flying the planes, I even fly offline now and again just for the hell of it, and I do look at all the little stuff that make the sim great.

Now, go take your meds, have a pint of whatever's on the nitro tap, then go home and relax while watching one of those gay DVDs that you bought "for the wife".  


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[StSanta]

Dejavu, it ain't eye candy.

Potentially, we could have all planes have a standard 3d model - shared by every plane - and then use the icons as identifiers. Below the eye candy, there'd be the various flight models of course.

Bit melodramatic, sure . But it does illustrate the point.

Having *realistic* measurement system in a flight sim doesn't appear to be eye candy to me. It's about pure numbers, not about something pretty to look at.

Having said that, I would be at a loss if I switched to the metric system. Am so used to the Imperial one that a climb rate of 750m/m would confuse me. Heh.

Having it in Imperial sticks out though. it's like a sore point that really detracts immersion. it's sort of like having one of those studmuffing*tt Barney Dolls right next to the gunsight.

Bit melodramatic again. Is nice to exaggerate . No, it's extremely pleasing and overwhelmingly satisfying to exaggerate.

[SOB]

Originally posted by StSanta
Having it in Imperial sticks out though. it's like a sore point that really detracts immersion. it's sort of like having one of those studmuffing*tt Barney Dolls right next to the gunsight.

So, what's this do for your immersion?  



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[aac]

If you don't like Hitech's game just don't play it go where they have what you want.  This looks pretty simple to me.  I like it and I will stay and play it like it is, and I bet most of the others will too.

ab8aac out

[SOB]

LOL, nice interjection aac.  From here on, I will be advised that input is unwarranted, and will contiue to fly the strait and narrowminded.


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