Am I the only one disappointed?

[muckmaw]

I don't know. The news of what's happening in 1.09 leaves me kinda cold. I was expecting a full Bomber Makeover, and instead we get a film editor? I'm not interested in making movies. Do we really need this? I guess it could be a learning tool, but it seems like more of a way for people to brag, and proudly display their celebrity kills. Big deal.

Please don't misunderstand me. I love this game, and  I know I'm judging the update before it's out, but I was just expecting more than this. I hope there is more to this update than Pyro mentioned, because it seems like an awful long wait for a film editor I probably won't use, a VOX program we already have, a few new planes, and a new paint job on a spit.

BTW, Can they ban you account for a post like this??

Either way, thanks for the update Pyro.

[Dinger]

Uh.
Don't confuse what's easy to do from what's hard.
Making bombers fly in formation in a manner different from Atari 2600 Combat! strikes me as a hard thing to do.
Adding those features to a film viewer is easier.

These guys make one simple promise: they will update the software as fast as they can.
am I disappointed?  No, I saw this coming.  I have yet to be surprised by any online sim update.

Oh, and the film editor should have been done long ago.  Nothing sells the product like cool videos.

Don't lose sleep over it.

[pimpjoe]

i am never disapointed by anything HTC does. they are a great company that does great things. if the dont add something i want ...so what. at least they're adding something:)

[jpeg]

I just read the "news" post and was about to post something similar to what you wrote.

The biggest thing that was (or at least it seemed to be) advertised for 1.09 was the 4 bomber control feature.

I like the addition of the uber film editor/viewer but yeah..overall I'm quite disapointed.

I hope they fix the strat system to make up for lack of 4 bomber control feature and addition of vehicles would be nice.

And no they can't ban you for that kind of post

[Tac]

video editor + making AVI's out of it is MUCH better than having buffs in formation.

The buffs will come, but hot damn, AVI!! WOOOOHOOO!!

[Sunchaser]

Controlling 4 bombers was not the hook for me with 1.09, redoing the bombsite and bomb accuracy and perhaps a facelift for the B17 were....so adios AH.

[Creamo]

I don't care either way. I always thought that new aircraft should arrive a few at a time inbetween big updates, but maybe they take a long time and are a work in progress.

Can't imagine what I would do with a film editor, but I can imagine guys that will be posting them as if watching someone else play a game is thrilling. Best I can guess is I could use it to see the  'Tard Train Hall of Fames' when I go back to view who the 7 guys chasing me all over the map were. Pry wouldn't even do that, but i bet some people will enjoy the editor.

[Wlfgng]

from what I read, they were trying to release ALL of the above...
bomber formations, ah voice, film editor, planes, etc...

instead they opted for an earlier release than would have been possible otherwise..

IMO we'll probably get the bomber formations about the same time we would have received the 1.09 update if we'd have waited for the all-in-one .  

so the question is:  Was it better to get a partial release (as described) or better to have waited to get what we're getting now until the bombers were ready?

btw.. not impressed with the film editor.. I have IL2 for that.

[AKDejaVu]

Quite a few members of the community requested the film view/editor options.  I guess they just weren't whiney enough about it for it really to set in in this forum.  Thankyou HTC for adding that function.

In addition, they seem to be answering the call to complete planesets for historical matchups.  Bf109-E... Hurri I... BoB.  I aplaud them to listening to yet another group of people on that request.

Oh... well... I'm sure HTC knows you can't please everyone anyways.

AKDejaVu

[NewNuke]

I think HTC should have us more information about the date of the release (remember the 2 weeks thing). I am kindof tired of waiting that patch, and I pay for this ! The new features are maybe cool, but it willl not change the way that people used to play !
Yeah new planes.....are them very usefull ? or is this just an "addon" ? willl them integrate a new gameplay or is this just a compilation ? that's a lot of questions.
Will HTC take care about this poor graphic engine ? it remembers me Elite 3 in SVGA....and I pay for this.

I have an idea about gameplay : fields are to free to use for me, let me explain this.
pPlanes on fields should be launched by waves every 5 minutes, so people might be obligated to fly with friendlies, and prepare some teamplay action to make the wave usefull, instead of no end furballing wich is a lack of realism. (die-otw cycle, vulch duty).

thanks for reading my bad english and please respond

[gavor]

Dates release not are predict to easy! Being to patience.

Whats the wrong grpahic engine? Fine looks and make downslaod smaller.


All your base are belong to us.


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[1776]

HTC said
"This will allow us to put all of our servers back with Skuzzy where we have far more control over connectivity issues, a great level of support, and less points of failure. These things have been our highest priority."

Best news ever told:)

Now if I remember right, HTC always has a surprise or two up their sleeves.  I bet one may be the ability to move the readio and clip board to a second monitor!!

[streakeagle]

First: there have been a lot of requests for the film editor. I won't ever use it much, but it sure helps to be able to clip out that special 5 or 10 seconds and be able to email it as a small attachment than have to sort through a 30 to 60 minute clip on fast forward/rewind trying to find something everytime you want someone to see it.

Second: I don't fly MA hardly at all and mainly fly fighters in air to air, so maybe my opinion on bombers isn't worth much. But as a hardcore sim type, I like the fact that every plane I see flying is piloted by a real person and every shot fired at me is aimed by a real person. These real people face the same limitations I do in terms of attention span, physical co-ordination, aiming ability, etc. Is it not enough to have AI ack that is either way too ineffective or extremely lethal? When I fly a buff on a mission, it is a blast to stay in formation and follow WWII procedures. It would not excite me to be the puppet master for a whole cell. Besides, if I want to see huge formations of aircraft, I play Rowan's Battle of Britain. So I am not disappointed at all by the absence of this feature.

Third: New features are nice, but for me, it is all about the planeset. I love having over a hundred different choices ranging from the AH-1 Cobra to Air Force One in Fighter's Anthology. With a graphics engine update and a few minor tweaks, that would still be my favorite flight sim. Aces High lets me be anything from a tank to a B-17, but I always want more. The early war planeset is what I have been waiting for since I first started playing AH 1.03 and it seems now is the time. Spit I, Hurri I, and Emil are awesome additions, but I can't wait for a P-40B/C. Russian MiGs would be nice to have, too. I even installed WBIII temporarily to try out their A-36. I really want to see every nationality covered as well as available data permits, even the French

Fourth, regarding furballing: Paying customers don't want to be told when they can takeoff. If I am paying to play, I want to play rather than sit on a runway waiting for permission. I love the CT, come fly there. On a relative scale, less furballs more co-ordination than the MA. I like having the choice myself.

[Doberman]

Personally, I'm more than thrilled about a solid film editor.  I spent years in WB listening to ICI, IMOL, etc tell us that film was just down the road.  I leave online flight for a while, return here and find that we have film!  I'm overjoyed.  And then to find that we're gonna get a decently featured editor very soon.  I'm giddy.

IMO, no tool is as useful to those pilots who honestly care about getting better than is film.  We can converse till the sheep come home about fake reverse chandell flip-flops lag turns and how once you master them you're a stone killer, but I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the people who read that stuff still have no idea how to fly any particular maneuver.  

Good film can change all that.  While the hot sticks can (and should) still describe their magic moves, they'll also be able to say "here's a 15 second film clip demonstrating what we're talking about."  Alot more concise than saying, "Well, I do that somewhere in this 25 minute film here."

I'm always concerned with improving my skills.  4 bombers glued in formation isn't gonna make me a better pilot.   Changes to the bombsite isn't gonna make me a better pilot.  A learning tool will make me a better pilot.


As someone who's been a customer of these guys (aside from a short lapse as they got AH off the ground and my real life took precedence) since their very beginning back with WB I know that they don't purposefully slight any one part of the game for another.  If the bombing changes could have been finished to satisfaction within the timeframe that they're looking for for 1.09, they'd be a part of it.  People who say that any one addition is the reason for the bomber stuff being excluded likely doesn't have any perception of the realities of programming this stuff.  It's possible that there's still a month's worth of work left on the bombers.  The film stuff maya been hacked out over the course of 2 days.  Leaving the film out still wouldn't get the bombers done.   (just a hypothetical example of course, as I myself don't know the complexities of the film system / bomber changes / etc.)



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[Otto]

What do you do with a film editor?  (This is a serious question)