Am I the only one disappointed?

[oboe]

Originally posted by Creamo
HTC needs to get out of the secrecy of what they are doing. Had they had the IL-2 quality engine ready for 400 people on a server 2 months ago, I could see the shroud of secrecy. I think they are adding planes and a viewer, however how could I actually know in detail?

This BS just leads to doubt, complaints, and not understanding what customers are paying for. Why promote negative PR when you could be enticing them?

I agree with Creamo here.  If I were HTC I would much rather see the community posting "Sweet!  I can't wait til we get xxxxx!  When will it be ready?"-type posts, rather than of "Give us some news!  What the heck are you guys working on?    Its been too long!".

I don't doubt dealing with this community can be difficult for HTC - they'll never be able to satisfy everybody.  But a few timely screenshots and news updates during the development cycle would go a long way toward taking the edge off the frustration of waiting for an update, and replace it with anticipation.

[Flossy]

Originally posted by Creamo
HTC needs to get out of the secrecy of what they are doing...
This BS just leads to doubt, complaints, and not understanding what customers are paying for.

What secrecy?  HTC keep us very well-informed of what they are doing, much more than other companies I have known of in the past!  Of course they can't give a running commentary of what they are doing, or they would be spending more time typing messages than actually doing anything!    

I also think keeping certain information back is a good idea and then no-one is disappointed if they are unable to carry out any promises at the times they hoped.  I think, instead of criticising HTC you should be thanking them for keeping us informed about what is in the works!  

[AKDejaVu]

Creamo...

Seems to me you need to spend a little more time reading what HTC is actually telling us before going on and on about what they aren't telling us.

Come on... admit it... you saw "film editor" and you simply skimmed through it.

The main problem I see with this game or any other game is the community's ability to treat the designers as if they were Gods.  Hanging on every word and then criticisizing every statement.  Why would they want to post what was upcoming all the time?  To allow for people to come in and criticize just how much they are or aren't doing?

No patch will ever give everyone what they want, so we get to endure "disappointed" threads from a patch that includes 5 new aircraft and a new film viewer.

Personally, I'd like to see aircraft released more frequently... one at a time if need be... once a month or less.  But I'm not going to come here and whine that the upcoming patch sucks before I even see it nor that HTC isn't doing enough.  Its quite simply pathetic.

Is that enough cheerleading for you?  Or maybe I should just throw in some uninformed bashing so I can pretend to be just like you?

AKDejaVu

[LePaul]

My first reaction was a bit similar.  Rather than the buff overhaul and other things that have been hinted, we're getting a film editor?

And the time wasted on AH Voice could've gone to fixin some of the real issues in 1.08 right now...namely the goon issue among others.  I dunno, I don't use AH Voice, those that use it seem to love it.  

But, I'll give them the benefit of a doubt.  Hopefully the things people mentioned in the "What Broken in 1.08" will manage to be remedied.

a voice program and a film editor.  Geesh.  Silly me thought the next update might fix some of the blaring strat problems.  LOL

The other thing I was hoping to see in the News was word of "New Maps"

I dunno, seems the buffs got screwed again.

[K West]

Not dissappointed at all.

 Westy

[Miss Cleo]

It sounds to me like everybody whining about the new news are forgetting how spoiled they are by the hard working staff at HTC.  We all get constant updates from this company, usually within a few months of each other, and you've gotten so used to it that you expect every release to be some big hoopla of fireworks and dancing girls.  
Face it.  Sometimes you're not going to get what you want or are hoping for.  Sometimes things turn out to be much harder to do than originally anticipated.  (like bomber formations)  I'd rather have a new release soon than have to wait even longer.
Nobody broke any promises to you, the world isn't going to end, and the sun with rise again tomorrow.  So stop acting so mellodramatic about it.  Chances are if you don't like this release, that the next one will probably be really cool to you.  But, of course, there will still be someone sitting in the corner pouting who will take their ball, and go home.

[Creamo]

Oh go bake me a cake Flossy. And get me a tissue, that was bee-utiful, Akdejafoo, especially the God part, but the "bashing" drama was a tear jerker too.

[straffo]

Warning Floss !

you been creamed

[Karaya]

any update is a good update.

in case you have not noticed- many on-line gaming companies are having problems. developing a game like AH costs quite a bit of time and money.

any game is what you make of it.

[Nifty]

this ain't whining about a release.  You wanna see whining, go visit the Neverwinter Nights forum.  I wouldn't be surprised if someone contemplated suicide because the winter 2002 release is now a summer 2002 release.  "I've been following this game for 3 years, and all you guys do is jerk our chains around!"  LOL, it's sad really.

Anyways, sounds like some spiffy updates that we didn't know about are in 1.09.  Looking forward to the film editor, as well as seeing some AVIs from the likes of Drex...  

Oh, gotta love that Hurri I!  look at them 8 Brownings...  death by hail of BBs!!!  

[Lephturn]

Originally posted by LePaul
My first reaction was a bit similar.  Rather than the buff overhaul and other things that have been hinted, we're getting a film editor?

And the time wasted on AH Voice could've gone to fixin some of the real issues in 1.08 right now...namely the goon issue among others.  I dunno, I don't use AH Voice, those that use it seem to love it.  

But, I'll give them the benefit of a doubt.  Hopefully the things people mentioned in the "What Broken in 1.08" will manage to be remedied.

a voice program and a film editor.  Geesh.  Silly me thought the next update might fix some of the blaring strat problems.  LOL

The other thing I was hoping to see in the News was word of "New Maps"

I dunno, seems the buffs got screwed again.

Oh that's rich.  Explain to me how the "buffs got screwed again" exactly?  Pyro simply said that those features are taking longer than they anticipated, so they are not going to hold up the rest of the things they had in 1.09 for that part.  It's real simple, the buff update you are looking for is taking longer than they though.  So, would you rather not have anything else new to play with while you wait for it?

They are still doing the buff update, and they are still concerned about stuff like strat.  Nothing in Pyro's post says anything about them toejamcanning the buff changes or not fixing other arena balance issues.  In fact, it doesn't mention maps either, one way or the other.  You may get new maps, you may not.  But ripping on HTC before you even see what they put in the update is just silly.

HTC has their priority list, and you have yours.  HTC takes into account what they think is best for the entire business along with resources/costs and such when working on things I'm sure.  You don't have any of that info.  Not surprisingly, your priority list is different from theirs.  Thank Cod for that.

Lephturn

[MANDOBLE]

Leph and Deja, not getting into discussion about the news, but ...  ... are you two part of HTC staff, relatives or whatever?

Do you two really think that HTC needs u to defend their business everytime someone say that something could be improved?

If you would work in my firm you two would be fired in a pair of weeks. All those thinking all is perfect are just useless to improve anything in this world. Give me people thinking something may be improved in some way even if they are totally wrong instead of useless cheerleaders.

[K West]

"Do you two really think that HTC needs u to defend their business everytime"

 Someone has to do the dirty work of dealing with emotionally unstable hecklers.

  Westy

[hblair]

I won't use the film editor much except for maybe making movies, but I'm really looking forward to the early war planes we will be getting, the 110, spit, 109, hurri etc. These will be a blast. Can't wait.

Mandoble, is your firm hiring? Need a trash taker-outer?

[edit]oh yeah, the KI67 too! [/edit]

[Nifty]

ooo!  Leph and Deja are defending HTC!  Can I defend Leph and Deja???  or would Nim be a better choice considering he's a lawyer?  

Sheesh, mandoble.  Where has anyone said "Aces High is perfect." ?

I won't speak for Leph or Deja or anyone else.  I'll speak for myself here.  I think Dale and the boys and girls are doing the best they can.  They're not perfect, and they're not "gods".  They're just some damned fine people working hard to put out quality work, in a timely fashion.  Their prior work has earned my subscription fee, and I expect subsequent releases to have the same quality.

Am I disappointed that the buff updates are delayed?  yes.  Am I disappointed that the Ki-67 is the only Pac plane we're getting?  yes.  Do either bother me?  no, I can handle delays/waits.  Overall, I'm pleased with the news about 1.09.

Deja is right.  You can't please everyone all the time.

*shrugs*  maybe I'm a little more sympathetic to the devs because I work for a software company (tho I'm contracted out as a webmaster).   I kinda know what they have to deal with, tho dealing with one customer voice per project is nothing like the 100's of customer voices they have to deal with.

HTC!  do your best;  that's all any of us should ask of you!  tho a F4F-3, A6M2 model 21, a SBD, a B5N (or B6N), and a D3A (or D4Y) would be nice!