Am I the only one disappointed?

[LePaul]

Originally posted by Lephturn


Oh that's rich.  Explain to me how the "buffs got screwed again" exactly?  Pyro simply said that those features are taking longer than they anticipated, so they are not going to hold up the rest of the things they had in 1.09 for that part.  It's real simple, the buff update you are looking for is taking longer than they though.  So, would you rather not have anything else new to play with while you wait for it?

They are still doing the buff update, and they are still concerned about stuff like strat.  Nothing in Pyro's post says anything about them toejamcanning the buff changes or not fixing other arena balance issues.  In fact, it doesn't mention maps either, one way or the other.  You may get new maps, you may not.  But ripping on HTC before you even see what they put in the update is just silly.

HTC has their priority list, and you have yours.  HTC takes into account what they think is best for the entire business along with resources/costs and such when working on things I'm sure.  You don't have any of that info.  Not surprisingly, your priority list is different from theirs.  Thank Cod for that.

Lephturn

Thank Cod?

Leph, I respect a lot of what you say in other forums.  What I'm disappointed by is no hint at fixing the broken strat system as we have it now.  I'm holding my judgement on the Buff Improvements because Im not sure I know enough about the proposed new system.  However, we've had problems with Super Goons upping from hit fields and repairing them, or just sitting on the re-arm pad, dropping, re-arming, dropping...etc.  Do we have a fix for this?  Patch?  Nope.  Instead, we are resetting maps almost daily and cycling through the same 4 maps.  Then we get news that wow, more improvements to AH Voice (something I do not think that many are using...that would be an interesting survey) and we're getting a film editor.

HTC can do as they please, I'm just disappointed the blaring issues I and others have spotted are largely going un-noticed.    But, we wont know for sure until 1.09 makes it out the door.  But, the hints do not seem promising to me.

[MANDOBLE]

... You can't please everyone all the time ...
... I think Dale and the boys and girls are doing the best they can ...

No one is questioning that.

...Am I disappointed that the buff updates are delayed? yes. Am I disappointed that the Ki-67 is the only Pac plane we're getting? yes. ...

In your opinion, posting thinks like that is positive or negative?

Read the LePaul post, is he attempting to harm HTC?

Are the first two Creamo posts something "evil"?

IMO, both of them are expresing in one way or another their views of how to improve the game, what they feel as important and what not. Is that censurable? What about the entire BBS full of messages like "Oh! What a wonderful sunset effect", "Hey, what a perfect textures", "Did u notice that superb flight model?", and so on ...
 
I've said that before and I'll say that again. The best demostration that we like HTC team work is that we were and are their customers. Even more, some customers also gives opinions on how to improve the game and what they see as wrong points. And this is best feedback a company can have.

[Apache]

Mandoble, agreed. Customer feedback is a valuable tool. However, this BBS is not all inclusive. Most here are mostly on opposite ends of the spectrum. There aren't that many middle of the road types that post on the BBS. HTC is aware of them as well.

[Mathman]

What I would like to know is how many people are continually pleasently surprised when we get a new realease about the new features anc corrections we get that aren't mentioned?  I know I am and by reading the posts in the few days after a release or patch is posted, I would be willing to be that a great many more are as well.  Until we get the patch, the only people that know EVERYTHING  that will be included in it are those employed at HTC.

So, until we see what 1.09 holds in store for us, why don't we do something original for once and NOT  go around crying that the sky is falling.

Oh well, as has been said many times before, some people will squeak, whine and curse about anything (even whine about not having anyhting to whine about so they make stuff up - not that anyone has done that in this thread).

-math

[Udie at Work]

I bet it's out by the end of this week or next week

WOOOHOOOOO avi's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOHOOOOO bomber formations to kill (eventualy )!!!!!!!!

[oboe]

Actually, when I think about it, and compare what HTC has done to my own miniscule capabilities-- well, yeah, I have to admit I do think of them as gods.    I think that is part of why I found the WarBird's Book of Dweeb entertaining, is nothing short of Amazing in my mind.

Amen.

[pbirmingham]

Originally posted by Flossy

I also think keeping certain information back is a good idea and then no-one is disappointed if they are unable to carry out any promises at the times they hoped.

Under-promise.  Over-deliver.  These are the secrets to happy customers in software.  Promise what you know you could deliver in three-quarters the time, and if you have overruns, you'll probably make the deadline anyway.  If you don't have overruns, you can do a better hjob than you promised.

Much better than having your customers feeling you've reneged on a promise, implicit or explicit.

[MrLars]

Originally posted by LePaul


 However, we've had problems with Super Goons upping from hit fields and repairing them, or just sitting on the re-arm pad, dropping, re-arming, dropping...etc.  Do we have a fix for this?  Patch?  Nope.  Instead, we are resetting maps almost daily and cycling through the same 4 maps.  

I don't think I've ever seen a bug fix that was announced well before the patch was released...I could be wrong but all the bug fixes that I remember being fixed weren't telegraphed untill the read me file.

[eskimo2]

Whenever I get a bit bored with AH, I try to learn a new ride.  I think I have about 54 of them that I have yet to master.

eskimo

[Nifty]

Originally posted by MANDOBLE

...Am I disappointed that the buff updates are delayed? yes. Am I disappointed that the Ki-67 is the only Pac plane we're getting? yes. ...

In your opinion, posting thinks like that is positive or negative?

positive.  it gives straight forward feedback.  also, don't forget to quote all of it.  "do either bother me?  no."  Maybe I should have been more specific at that juncture and stated I was pleased with what we were getting, so I'm not bothered by what's missing.

Read the LePaul post, is he attempting to harm HTC?
I get the impression, and I could be wrong, that he feels like HTC has been wasting their time on a feature that has been asked for repeatedly (more robust film editor).  Then he flat out states the AHVoice is a waste of time.  However, he does concede that maybe strat fixes will be introduced that haven't been mentioned yet

Are the first two Creamo posts something "evil"?
not at all.  his first post he mentions he doesn't know what he'd do with the editor, but that he imagines other people will have fun with it.  To me that seems like he thinks it's a worthwhile feature for customers, just not for him.

IMO, both of them are expresing in one way or another their views of how to improve the game, what they feel as important and what not. Is that censurable? What about the entire BBS full of messages like "Oh! What a wonderful sunset effect", "Hey, what a perfect textures", "Did u notice that superb flight model?", and so on ...
agreed.  they are expressing their opinions.  However, one is being delivered with, IMO, an unproductive tone.  People want constructive criticism, not comments laced with sarcasm.  I wouldn't expect sarcasm from a customer as a developer.  Of course it's not censurable, however, the tone is, again IMO, undesirable.  I think the tone is what illicited a lot of the responses to LePaul's post.  I think I said the same thing back when 1.08 came out.  (btw, it's nothing personal against LP, and I think he knows that.  if not, now he does.)  Now, what's wrong with positive feedback?  Constructive criticism is good.  Negative comments are not; they tend to put the person you're trying to help out in a defensive, negative frame of mind.  Not conducive for trying to get them receptive to your ideas and concerns when you're one voice out of many.  That was my point.
 
I've said that before and I'll say that again. The best demostration that we like HTC team work is that we were and are their customers. Even more, some customers also gives opinions on how to improve the game and what they see as wrong points. And this is best feedback a company can have.

[Sharkm8]

if Hitech announced that after 1.09 there would be no more updates how many of you would stop playing?  if ur playing the game now then u must like the game as it is and therefore no one should complain about what ur getting.  if u want to complain go and make your own flight sim comparble to AH i highly doubt many of u could:p

[Doberman]

Originally posted by Creamo
I cant even respond. Bashing every sentence of your stupidity is beyond my efforts. I've never seen so much posted be so wrong and easy to just bash, that I'm perplexed where to start !

To the point I just lose interest and laugh in awe.

Thats never been done before. Wow.

Your attention span seems to be fairly short, as evidenced by the random pointless babbeling in your posts.  I'm not at all surprised that you've got no ability to refute any of my comments.  

If you want anyone to put any creedance to what you say, you might start by using full clear sentences.  Barring that, you'll just be looked upon as the raving loon that you seem to be.

Ya know, you can go ahead and just say that you're unable to address my points because you don't have the intelligence.  It's okay.  No one's gonna think any less of you than they already do.

D

[Wutz]

Well, if HTC is delaying the bomber remake, it is probably for a good reason. After all it is not worth having if not done good. I realy looked forward too the new bomber system, but I will wait longer if HTC say that we must. HTC goes 120% for their customers, and U all know that.

[hazed-]

I would say there are 2 SIMPLE things HTC can add to 1.09 to make it a great update:

1: a new larger scale map of some peice of REAL landscape (like a working mediteranean 3 country map?).(Personally i feel this is THE most important add on we need)

2: add 1 or 2 suprise aircraft/vehicles that we havent expected.

We have an emphasis on early war planes for 1.09 (spit I,Hurri I,109e,me110) and it seems to me that maybe (as pyro has mentioned some bombers are getting facelift) HTC are working on a few earlier/later versions of bombers we already have?


A ju88g with the larger caliber weapons would be a nice suprise right?

[muckmaw]

A B-29 Would make me a happy camper.

Actually, a few more Perk bombers, and some Perk GV's would make my day.

I know the 29 is alot to ask for. So how about a B-24, or an A-26.

Something to charge up the fluffers would be much appreciated.

A goon with a door gun!!!!!!

Wait, I know exactly what I want. Some sort of heavy lift transport that can carry one or 2 GVs!

That's my Christmas Wish.