Author Topic: Canadians finish second despite a "perfect" program (Read 1630 times)

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #30 on:** February 12, 2002, 09:47:53 PM »

hey loser, the correct term is "colostomy sack" and not "chitbag." And as far as trolling goes, well, Americans have won the gold medal in that sport since 1960.
All you Canadians would do with a gold medal is melt it down so you could buy American-made cigarettes anyway, so get over it already. Hell, it's already 36 hours later and Canada is STILL crying. Get over it before your tears freeze to your ruddy, pudgy cheeks.
Elfenwolf, colostomy sack extrodinaire

Thrawn · « **Reply #31 on:** February 12, 2002, 10:24:11 PM »

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Oh god. This has got to be a troll.

Rapping, diary farmer eh? I would give yeah 6.0 for originality, but I've already cashed the cheque the Russians gave me.

Doberman · « **Reply #32 on:** February 12, 2002, 10:53:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Nifty
hehe, Germany beat the crap outta Slovakia! 3-0! the goalie doesn't even start for his club team in Nuremburg. what a story!

hmm, I hear skating and Olympics and I think of hockey! sorry!

Seriously, did anyone actually expect anything other than a judges controversy in an Olympic event, especially pairs figure skating?

funny you should bring up boxing. 1988 Middleweight bout goes to a decision. It's given to Park of South Korea over Roy Jones, Jr. Jones landed 80+ punches to Park's 30+. That, combined with other issues, led to a revamping of Olympic boxing's judging practices. Maybe the same will happen with figure skating eventually.

Soeul was a cesspool of host country favoritism and outright cheating. Dozens of incidents were reported.

Guy I went to high school with was competing in Tae Kwon Do. Tapes clearly showed two hits which were not scored for him, and a clean miss that was awarded as a point for his opponent. Co-incidentally enough the fight was for the gold against a Korean fighter in TKD's first Olympic appearance as the sport of the host country. And judged by a Korean judge. Needless to say, the US athlete (Juan Moreno) went home with the silver.

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Elfenwolf · « **Reply #33 on:** February 12, 2002, 11:14:25 PM »

Favortism in judging events has been going on for as long as the Olympics have, so what's the point? All the manly countries shrug it off and continue on, but the Canadians cry like their favorite ice fishing hole just froze over.

(singing) O CAN- a- da! Land of all the ice ba- bies
when WILL you EV-er grow up, o Can-a-DA? When WILL you quit your cry-ing, o- Can- a- da.

Why don't you guys get over it already?
Sheeesh,
Elfenwolf

Octavius · « **Reply #34 on:** February 12, 2002, 11:51:21 PM »

Just heard that Russian judge squealed to USA Today about some sort of deal they had worked out with French judges. Not sure on all the details, but I guess we'll hear the real story tomorrow hopefully. ... Damn, first time I felt the canucks were jipped! lol!

newguy · « **Reply #35 on:** February 13, 2002, 01:18:33 AM »

I didnt think the Olympics started until this Friday at 6pm eastern time. What is this 'figure skating'?

newguy
Go Team Canada

mrsid2 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 13, 2002, 02:32:24 AM »

It's commonly known that the judges choose the potential winners already before the event. In the worldchampionships you can follow couples progress slowly position by position untill they finally start taking nr.1 places and end up winning the championship.

The funny part is, that performance wise they might have been able to do that much earlier, but they won't do that untill they establish 'name' within the sport and get the judges on their side..

What can you say.. A weird sport.

Thrawn · « **Reply #37 on:** February 13, 2002, 03:07:22 AM »

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Originally posted by newguy
I didnt think the Olympics started until this Friday at 6pm eastern time. What is this 'figure skating'?

newguy
Go Team Canada

Something that happens on the ice between periods?

straffo · « **Reply #38 on:** February 13, 2002, 03:34:41 AM »

There's nothing new ...

How can it be otherwise ?
Having a judgement based on technical and artistic ?

Frankly 4 judges out of 5 for the canadian it's not that bad !

Considering they were showing the same program as the previous year whereas the Russian were showing a complete new one .

I don't think it was an unfair judgement regarding the point given .

Hortlund · « **Reply #39 on:** February 13, 2002, 04:19:43 AM »

Sweden will win the hockey tournament.
And thats all that counts.

Screw figure skating, who cares about those morons anyway, same goes for curling..geez, can there BE a more gay sport than that.

And what about the speed skating? Who in their right frame of mind would want to wear those outfits? Bunch of tards all of them.

Tumor · « **Reply #40 on:** February 13, 2002, 05:19:02 AM »

Russia

Ukraine

France

They all tied both couples in the technical portion with 5.8. Two outright screw-ups by the Russian skaters were "not noticed" by the these three. It doesn't make it right, but it's understandable the Russians would be blind. Ukraine? Can't figure that one out. france? Golly there's a big suprise. Typical of the french vomits to have thier heads up their butts. I noticed during the mens half-pipe snowboarding during the first qualifying run, the frogs scored Cass way below the other's.

straffo · « **Reply #41 on:** February 13, 2002, 06:45:47 AM »

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-lynx- · « **Reply #42 on:** February 13, 2002, 09:34:10 AM »

fd-ski - if you actually look at the results of your "snooping around" you'll see that blaiming a Russian judge in favouritism is simpply BS. She gave a Canadian pair 0.1 less total than that of a Russian pair. Canadian judge "favoured" his/her (not sure what sex Benoit Lavoie is - you can never know with the French;)) side with 0.3...

The problem is that this score as far as I remember from the good old days has far less weight in determining the winner than the places judges put the skaters on. That is, they give marks for technical/artistic performance but also place a skater/pair on a "podium" - the lower that score - the higher the eventual placing is. It would be interesting who "screwed up" there.

Another thing to consider is that the highest and the lowerst scores are ignored hence obvious favouritism (one way or the other) is simply ignored when the final results are tallied.

Slugging off the Russian pair is grossly unfair regardless of how the Canadians feel about it - they skated to the best of their ability, they did not cheat in any way and if the judges had decided to give them the gold - it was the judges decision and both countries were represented on the panel...

Boroda · « **Reply #43 on:** February 13, 2002, 10:33:49 AM »

Ok, here I am

The story is covered on Russian media and draws very much attention.

You, North Americans say Canadians were the best, so, I hope you understand that in Russia public opinion is opposite.

Yes, new programm. That's it.

Does Western media say that Tanya is a unique skater? In 1996 she got hit in her head by her partner's skate... Neurosurgeons said it's doubtfull she will ever walk... Her brain speech center was damaged, and she had to learn to speak again

What Anton did for her is simply unbelievable...

Did your media show that Anton was deliberately hit and barely escaped trauma at the warm-up? You call it fair play?

Do you know the story how Tanya and Anton "lost" their World Championship Gold in 2000 due to Tanya's "doping test"? Damn doping test for a girl that skates with a hole in her skull!?

People here consider the subject a serious offence. Almost a personal offence. "It's no surprise: just remember when USSR won Canada Cup in 1981 and they didn't give us a prize!"

Media coverage of this Olympics is very surprising. I don't remember when journalists said so much about "unfair attitude" to Russian team. I don't like it. Our new-fangled "patriotic" trend to accuse everyone when our team looses competition after competition

Also, media concentrates on "American patriotism", sometimes even saying that foreign sportsmen are "second class" in Salt Lake. Opening ceremony with that flag didn't make people feel warmer too.

My opinion is that it's Sport, and it's a nonsence to speak about "unfair play" etc when you loose. (I wait in horror for a probable failure of Russian hockey team, made of NHL players who brilliantly got honorable 13th place on World Cup 99 in Leningrad...) And it's stupid to engage politics into sport too, like in 1980 and 1984.

Hope I didn't offend anyone his time

I prefer mineral water on weekdays

Last note: here we have another supid campaign of "sports and physical culture propaganda". Putin said that he wants to bring sports to masses, like in Soviet times, and government bosses started to report about it, like "workplace gymnastics" and races in Smolniy corridors during lunch breaks. "Make a fool pray - and he'll break his forhead"...

midnight Target · « **Reply #44 on:** February 13, 2002, 11:02:11 AM »

The judging continues to be ridiculous. The 2 russian men's single skaters vieing for the gold skated last night. One FELL DOWN and still received 5.9's for his artistic expression. PAAALEEEZE! The only reason this was done was to keep him in the medal contention and the announcers said as much.
These skaters are great athletes, but they might as well judge it by the roar of the crowd.....like Queen for a Day.