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Offline Wilbus

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2002, 06:06:43 AM »
Cc, D30 can get flaps out fast though, 190 has got to go down in 175Mph to get 1 notch out.

The D11 turns far better then the A5.
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Offline Staga

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2002, 07:11:57 AM »
Hang have you flyed G-10 since you had to do that 100 kill thing ? :D
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Offline VAQ

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2002, 07:15:47 AM »
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The 38 is amazing. Pop some flaps, and you can go over the top at no speed. Spit gaining on ya in the rope a dope? Those two engines will keep ya steady, then you drop down.

Then I opened up with those nose guns.

d500, hit flashes all over the enemy. LW guns feel positively anemic and wussie like in comparison.



There was one Spit that declined to follow an obvious rope-a-dope.  There was one Spit that did not take a hit from a P-38, nor allow a P-38 to gain his six.  There was one Spit that lit a P-38 up like a Christmas tree.  There was one Spit that watched a P-38 depart from controlled flight and crash.

I suggested at the time that your positive view toward Allied aircraft would quickly pass.

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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2002, 08:03:10 AM »
hoolign tried a G6 for a tour to see how bad the LW planes were.  He claimed it was childs play and I believe he came out #1 or #2 in it for the tour.   I tried it for a sortie and it seemed untouchable I simply climbed or accelerated out of trouble with ease.    roll made reversals very simple and all that stuff you read about 109s having horrible visibility is all wrong...  

Followed a hellcat that was zooming up and just CLIMBED ... nailed him at 200 yards.   Bad thing was, I got like 4 assists and ran out of ammo.   Very good plane for newbies tho I would think.
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Offline Mr Hanky

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2002, 08:37:28 AM »
I've flown the F6F exlusively for the last 4 tours.  That's some 1400 kills to 11 kills in other aircraft (F4u-4, P-47-D30, Ta-152).  I guess that makes me pretty much a one trick pony.

I'm flying in the CT this tour.  I decided to try to stick to one aircraft when possible.  I picked the G6 for the LW and the Ki-62 for any PAC stuff.

The guns are harder to aim with than the .50s on the F6F, but pack one hell of a punch when they connect.  I don't recall many aircraft surviving a burst from either plane.

The Ki handles awesome, but is somewhat slow and accelerates poorly.  It will also tear Spitfires apart all day long.

The G6 handles quite well and can out-accelerate those it can't out-handle.  It is competent against the Spit IX and can outrun the Spit V.  And when you have that 30mm loaded... planes just come apart.  I've survived a 3:1 against D11s in that plane with 2 kills to show for it.  Its nice.

It seems to me its easy to learn the neuances of a new aircraft, even if you've only really flown one other for some time.  The main thing is flying alot and figuring out things like proper engagement and SA.  The aircraft makes minimal difference compared to those two things.
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Offline Am0n

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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2002, 08:52:32 AM »
To bad you tried out those sissy planes StSanta, could have alteast flew something that would put hair on your chest like the ever-so-manly p47-30.. no wonder the joy was short lived.

you missed out on the only 2 combat worthy birds in the U.S hanger, p47 and the other being the F6F-5.

if your keen on the luftwussy 109 im sure you would love the hellcat, since it eats the 109 for breakfast  :)
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2002, 09:25:02 AM »
Am0n speaks the truth.

Wait a minute... who let you LW weenies play with the good planes?  Yech, I'm glad I've got mine locked away at the Pig Sty away from all you leather-wearing weirdos. :p

*cough* I don't know what you guys are talking about, the P-47 and F6F are just crap... *cough*  Now go back to your Waffle-mobiles and be amazed at how we kill you with such inferiour hardware!  :D

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2002, 10:34:26 AM »
Heheheh Vaq, that was fun. You DID follow me up into the rope a dope.

I DID rope a dope you.

The problem was, of course, that I also spun out at the top, and I had no idea of how to get out of the spin.

So while you merrilyu flew along and laughed hard at my feeble attempts of recovering, I was in panic with throttle at zero, rudder oposite spin, stick forward.

Nothing helped. System: victory 1 by vaq.

Heh that was a good fight :).

Only thing: in the TA, you fly around. One makes a 'check 6' call signalling they wnat to engage. Sure. Then another. Then another. All of a sudden there's a 3 v 1.

Sure makes for some interesting training.

Fklew the 38 in the CT yesterday evening. Died 3 times: the icon settings makes it very much easier for the enemy to sneak up on you.

Managed to get 9 kills in it though: Man, those guns are like lasers cutting through the target. Snapshots at 500-600 no prob....
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Offline hazed-

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2002, 11:08:49 AM »
109g6 is easy to fly and kill in if you fight inferior pilots.Try flying your G6 vs some of the more experienced allied pilots and its shortcomings are soon apparent.

I'd like to see laz in the 109g6 outfight a spit and a p38 when thespit is hard on your 6 and the p38 is booming and zooming.

and laz surely you dont consider the 109g6 easier to learn in than a spit9 or p51d or p47d30?

if we are talking about total newbies with no knowledge of flying the obvious planes, ie spits, p51s, nik etc for ease of use come WAY before any 109 model. The guns alone, regardless of performance, makes this true.
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Offline Mr Hanky

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2002, 11:21:09 AM »
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109g6 is easy to fly and kill in if you fight inferior pilots.Try flying your G6 vs some of the more experienced allied pilots and its shortcomings are soon apparent.


You must be right.  So far I've only flown it against the inexperienced pilots in the CT.  Maybe I should give it a try in the MA where the pilots actually know how to fly? ;)
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2002, 01:06:15 PM »
Staga, I've hopped into a G10 a few times since that 100 kill pennance in the G10 for losing to Hristo..

IMHO the Gustav is AH's meanest LW fighter.. outclimbs anything the allies have, and without gondolas and with good gun accuracy is a most formidable opponet in a turn fight.

I have huge respect for the LW birds, and for the guys that can fly them well.. they DO require a significant attitude adjustment in the cockpit compared to most allied planes.. finess and style count... the allied stuff, while pretty, is also kinda bland in pilot demands. I can get outta a tuff spot in a pony a lot easier than I can in a FW or a Gustav.


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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2002, 02:32:20 PM »
Get back on your dorka and quit greasin' my 38 santa ;)


Tiger I tank? You're joking right? 38 eats as much lead as the next 109/spit/yak. Only thing is its wings dont snap as easily as the others AND it has another engine to keep it going.. and 2 rudders too.

Aim for the wingtips, it kills 38 instantly. And its got a HELL of a big wingtip.
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Offline Wilbus

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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2002, 03:10:30 PM »
Hell no, it takes WAAAAY more dammage the most other planes in the game, can't be compared to the 109 or 190 in any way.
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2002, 04:02:12 PM »
Gotta agree with Wilbus here, the P38 is up in the P47s league now.  Before it was in a league of its own.. albiet a very poor one.
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2002, 04:50:05 PM »
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Cc, D30 can get flaps out fast though, 190 has got to go down in 175Mph to get 1 notch out.

The D11 turns far better then the A5.


I disagree wil, the D11 we have now is different from the one that was introduced.  An A5 will turn inside a D11 at a low speed turnfight.
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