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Offline Dingy

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« on: February 19, 2002, 09:26:05 AM »
I'll keep this short and sweet.... :)

These are what I've come to dislike in the arena but I have no solutions.

1.  Rooks are always outnumbered when Im on.

Just last Sunday there were 135 Bish, 140 Nits and 70 rooks.  As we got pressed further into a corner decreasing our options, our numbers dropped to 50.

Would love to see more squads shift to rooks to level out numbers andmake the fites more interesting.

2.  People whining on ch 1 about how AH sucks and that xxxx was such a better game.  

SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE???  Go make a game that appeals to you or find one that does.  Dont take your can't fly, cant shoot, what do you do attitude and hike it out of here.  Might increase the available bandwidth on these servers for those of us who do enjoy it :)

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2002, 09:43:54 AM »
1. No one gets kills without RED cons.

2. No one can kill reds unless they they are abundant enough to find, engage and kill.

3.  No one gets gangbanged unless they chose to up where dar says there are many gangbanging cons. (If dar is down, the new 3D sounds and tower view clues you in. Don't dispair at least you found a reason to fly a Hurricane with cannons.)

Whining on channel 1 is OK. It goes away with the moment, but whining here about whining on channel 1 could haunt you for years.

 Especially if you back it up with the old standby- "if you don't like it, go make your own game. More bandwidth for me." Which of course is self defeating in the HTC Rah rah bish boom bah promotional cheer.

The people that can't shoot and squeak are a main attraction of the game. "Kills" I call em. They are squeaking and if they weren't they wouldn't be interested. Then something would be wrong. They are frustrated usually, but they'll learn, and talk less in most cases.

Now what's your excuse?

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2002, 08:02:45 PM »
Hmmm hate to say it but I agree with Creamo... I fly rook and love being outnumbered... it never takes long to find a fight, always plenty of targets around.  If you can't deal with getting ganged, up from a field away from the front and get to 30k before engaging like all the 38 dweebs do. :p

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2002, 09:43:37 AM »
My complaint with numbers isnt a whine on gangbanging.  Gangbanging occurs just as easily with equal numbers on each side as it does with inordinate numbers like I outlined earlier.   This wasnt so much of a whine as it was a request to see if there are any squads that might want to help out a struggling country :)

Regarding the AH whiners....now thats a whine.   I love what Hitech and Pyro have done especially since I've been here since day 1 of open beta.  I gave up AW at the time for AH since I enjoyed it quite a bit more.  Its my sheer appreciation for what HTC has done with the game that I base my opinions.  If they want to bash the game online, I'll express my feeling as such.

Granted there are only a small minority who feel they need to trash the game but its a percentage we can do without.  Ok I can do without :)

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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2002, 10:26:43 AM »
The majority of AH players are just too gutless to join the weakest side even if they see a huge imbalance.

They can't survive unless they gangbang - so they fly the populated countries.

What really makes me puke is when they make patronising and arrogant remarks to the ones that complain for the retardedly unfair numbers.

I've stoped playing AH since I don't find it fun to be banged every time I log on.. I think last week I played max 10 hours if not less.. And 80% of those hours we were facing 2:1 or worse odds.

Still have my account.. not sure why though. In retrospect H2H was more fun.

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2002, 10:38:40 AM »
"I've stoped playing AH since I don't find it fun to be banged every time I log on.."

Well, at least you're not too gutless to join the weakest side.  Better not to play at all, than to find a way to have fun.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2002, 10:53:57 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2002, 10:57:58 AM »
Dingy:

While Rooks are outnumbered at times doesn't mean it happens all of the time. If, when you log on it seems this way to you, I would suggest that you vary the days and times that you fly, you will prolly see a difference.

Also, in this sim/game, the side with fewer numbers tends to always get hammered. From where I sit, it seems that Rooks, regardless of numbers are always the preferred target of the other two countries. For me, I am accustomed to this from another sim I flew :)  It does mean more targets and always gives Rooks something to work towards; furballing can get boring if there is no other point than that.
I don't agree that other squads should switch over to even out sides. If this were the CT or there were conditions like there were in another sim I flew in, I could see doing this but, IMO, its not necessary; number advantage changes like the wind in the MA.

Whining abounds among some in this sim/game; it isn't going to change; not here on the BBs or in the arena. If it's in the arena you can squelch the channel or the person. Many have advised those with problems flying, to get some training but, they don't seem to want to. This isn't a game where one can just log on and have fun killing things. As you know, you die more than anything else until you learn how to fly and fight.

BTw, I for one do not take your post as whining at all. As you can tell, everyone in here has an opinion about something ;)

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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2002, 11:39:06 AM »
I also notice Rooks tend to be outnumbered most times I'm on.

However I also notice that even with fewer numbers, Rooks still do alright for themselves.  Perhaps it's because Adversity breeds innovation, and Rooks have evolved into better pilots :p

The few occasions Rooks happen to have superior numbers, they really boom across the map.

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2002, 12:40:24 PM »
Rooks were outnumbered last night but we took about 6 bases. I think we had like 31 bases and we were outnumbered by both sides most of the time. There was a lot of teamwork.

Sometimes if we are really getting hammered and when it may not be fun to fly in such conditions if not in the mood, it's good to go to the CA. I also go to the TA and offer help. That can be very rewarding and is a good review of one's own skills.

Regards,

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« Last Edit: February 20, 2002, 12:43:32 PM by rogwar »

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2002, 01:57:49 PM »
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I don't agree that other squads should switch over to even out sides. If this were the CT or there were conditions like there were in another sim I flew in, I could see doing this but, IMO, its not necessary; number advantage changes like the wind in the MA.


Really....go back to the link in Rips post and check out Camo's initial post.  That dates back to June of last year.  If numbers change like the wind, looks like el nino is here to stay :)

And regarding whiners on ch 1, I prefer to push their buttons in public.  Gives me a little sense of satisfaction in an arena that is so difficult to survive in as a rook.  Yes...very petty of my but Im currently undergoing treatment! LOL!

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2002, 04:48:04 PM »
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The majority of AH players are just too gutless to join the weakest side even if they see a huge imbalance.


Has it ever occured to you that some of us do not care to change countries, especially change just to bring parity to the arena?
I've been a Bishop since day one of the beta and intend to stay Bishop til the Good Lord takes me away.

I would suggest you simply accept the nature of this sim (which, btw, will change regarding numbers just like it always has) or, go find something else to do. You sound like a Socialist to me...everyone else needs to seek my level so I can feel good about where I am kinda thing...sheesh!!!

Someone needs to start a "The Most Stupid Statement of the Week thingie!

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2002, 05:29:30 PM »
Rude, you don't have a clue about the idea behind socialism. You're stupid. You define things that you don't understand as socialist or communist like a typical american biggot. No offence to all the cool (and smart) ones.

If you were smarter, you'd realize this has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with a balanced arena, equal opportunities and equal fun to players. We all pay equal money for the game, too. Dollars ($$$) <-- money :eek:

If you're a dedicated bishop pilot, so be it. War doesn't miss one player (you.)

However we do see fluctuation in the arena during the days, with people clearly travelling to the biggest country when the situation starts to degrade. Because of those people (whom I call the real gutless) the defending party loses it's stand even more. Those players could choose to balance the arena instead of joining the easy gangbang.

The fun multiplier is optimum when the sides are somewhat equal because:

a) Being gangbanged is not fun, gets boring very fast. Being gangbanged sometimes is ok, constantly not. During certain timezones certain countries are regularly beaten to death.

b) Gangbanging is initially fun, but as it gets constant it gets boring because it requires no skill nor effort. Just chasing the few enemies and mostly looking at your teammates beat you to it. To some dedicated milkrunners this is heaven though.

c) A fight with equal numbers is the only kind of fight that really takes pilot skill into equation, leaving the best pilot in the air. At disadvantage even the best will fall - if they make the mistake to engage in such a situation. They can choose not to engage - again boring and could aswell stay off the game.

d) I used to fly bishops & knights untill I noticed rooks were constantly gangbanged (at my timezone). I joined the team to help them. My marxian-socialist-Stalins-buttkissing upbringing includes a thing called fair play. I took it as a challenge but now it starts to get boring - mainly because too many are not following my example and the imbalance continues.

e) I'm trying to do my part in making this game fun for more people mainly by trying to convince people out of the gangbanging 'turn in the bucket' cycle of revenge that's going on in the main. It's futile and unnecessary.

But you probably won't understand any of this. Another act of futility. But you know, us commies we stoopeed da da. Haraso.

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2002, 05:44:51 PM »
I can only recall a few times...all recently...where the rooks are outnumbered. Usually the niggits are the lowest # in the MA. I've been flying more and more in the CT but historically the #'s stay pretty even. I switched to knight when I signed back up since it was always the lowest total back then... next month someone else will be on short end of the number equation.

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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2002, 05:47:33 PM »
Humble that is exactly the phenomena I was describing (timezones, turn in the bucket..) I understand fully what you experience since I play sometimes at night too.

And those that were left wondering of above, yes the crack was tasty :p