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Offline GRUNHERZ

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Gruden Leaves the Raiders
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2002, 02:56:33 AM »
I like Livermore, we had some family up there till they moved a few years ago. Nice cozy city.
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Offline mrfish

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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2002, 03:18:07 AM »
livermore is a nice place. especially this time of year when its green. i don't know about those summers though. i like not having to own an air conditioner :)

if i had to pick between oakland and florida i'd just shoot myself - they both suck. like you mentioned though - the oakland/berkeley hills and piedmont/orinda/lafayette areas are really nice.

i wouldnt mind living there but florida only impressed me as the place where old trailors go to die.
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« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2002, 06:52:44 AM »
Been a Raider fan for 20+ yrs. Certainly NO bandwagoner. The entire situation frustrates the sh(* outta me. I loved what Grudern did w/the Raiders. Al Davis has streaks of brilliance but he screws the pooch alot too. Jeff George...Joe Bugel etc come to mind. The draft isnt what is use to be beyond huge hype. Most teams are made or broken through free agency anymore. How many 1st round draft picks have actualy paned out for the Raiders?

 I quess I just wish the Gruden/Davis had worked something out so he'd still be in the SIlver and Black. I mean we had to deal w/White then Bugel before. I liked Art Shell...


Anyway.... I think I'm just getting sick of "Professional" sports that the indiv's concerned are anything BUT professionals beyond a paycheck to play. :rolleyes:

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Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2002, 07:40:07 AM »
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Originally posted by funkedup
When you do things like forcing the NFL to merge with your upstart league, breaking the color barrier on the field, in the front office, and in the coach's office, suing the league for their illegal and immoral actions, and avoiding discussions with biased and irresponsible media, you pay a price.  


I said last 20 years(20 superbowls)  not the last 30.  READ.
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