Perk all them spits?

[DarkglamJG52]

Tour 25(G10, F4U-D/C and sometimes D9/A8/P51)

Spit IX --> 41-10
Spit V --> 36-5
Seafire -->12-3
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Total --> 89-18==>K/D 4,94 (Prev tour 3,4)   (Next tour 7/1)


Record spit down one sortie 5.

Spit's we are over you guys.


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[Angus]

Well, there seems to be a bunch of people here that bear no respect to the dreaded spit....and even shoot down spits in a most impressive quantity.
Can't wait to have a spit XIV in AH, imagine the perk-whining-posts we get then, when hardly any plane can out-run it any more:D

[straffo]

Don't forget the   spit 9u

(J/K )

[Tumor]

Originally posted by Nefarious
We have several cannon only birds.

Why are we keeping the CHOG perked, first of all its a corsair, second we have a F4U4. It makes absolutley no sense at all.

Look at the stats, It shows very little use of the F4U-1C, In my oppinion its not a spectacular aircraft and we have a more manueverable cannon armed bird (N1K-2J) and by far it's easier to fly.

The Spitfire IX should not be perked. The C-HOG should be un-perked. And Certain planes should have thier OBJ lowered. (And one of those "certain planes" would be Spit Mk IX)

I agree with unperking the CHog.  I don't know for sure but not having flown one in a long time, I recently noticed it seems to handle like it's much heavier than back in the day.

[MANDOBLE]

All I can say is that I'm bored of killing spits, n1Kjs and La7s ...

For example, 109 (4 versions) and Spit (3 versions) kills, all versions in 3 tours:

Tour 23:
34 109 kills
122 Spit kills

Tour 24:
37 109 kills
150 Spit kills

Tour 25:
33 109 kills
88 Spit kills

Too much spits everywhere ...

[Nashwan]

Too much spits everywhere ...

Luftwhiners were complaining about that back in 1940 too, I hear

[MANDOBLE]

ROFLOL, Nashwan, that was a good one

[WBHoncho]

I'm new, but I find I can pretty much ignore spits.  The La7's are another matter, they are damn fast.

[MANDOBLE]

WBHoncho, sooner or later you will find out that you cant ignore spits if you want to protect your jabos, goons or even buffs.

[Kieran]

Dangit, Nashwan beat me to it.

It'd be one thing if they were hard to avoid or kill, but neither is the case. Spits are easy meat for several of the planes in the set. Seems to me they are pretty balanced both as an aircraft and as an object in the plane set.

To me they are merely the enemy. A dead enemy is a dead enemy.

Regarding the ENY, I'll let you in on a little secret- I have no idea how that works. I don't know if a high ENY is good or bad, I don't know the multiplier factor, mainly because I don't give a crap. Point? If you try to adjust the arena numbers by adjusting the ENY value of planes you may be marginally successful, but the fact is many people totally ignore that aspect and just fly what is available and fun to them. Go ahead, give the Spit IX and ENY of 1 (is that good or bad?), won't make any difference to the large number of people that choose to fly it. OTOH, you perk it, and you will have trouble.

As for the whole debate, if you cannot kill a Spit in anything in the game you need to give up combat sims and try the civil stuff with Cessnas and Pipers. Not trying to be esoteric, but there is nothing to killing a Spit in any of the current AH incarnations.

[Wotan]

fly planes with the highest eny value kill planes with the lowest gives you the greatest perk return.

Thats all it does. If you care nothing about flying perk planes then it shouldn't matter to you. eny value in no way helps your "score".

However there's no reason to beetch about 8 perks...you can get those with your eyes closed.

the current spit set is out classed plane fer plane against the rest. Now there are great pilots who fly them and they are easier for a new guy to jump right into.

The things are slow. They dive hold e and accelerate but if you enter a fight with them knowing this then you should be ok.  

If you kill enough of umm it will discourage the hordes of umm we see in the main.

the best way to "perk" spits....kill everyone you see..............

[Am0n]

leave the Chog perked, it is a great AC. Ive been toy'n around with it and its deffinately needs perked, i had greater success in it than the f4u-4, although it may have been the "kick-me" icon that the -4 bares.. Now i didnt play AH when the Chog was not perked but i can only emagine the ammount that plagued the arena.

 I was one to squeak and whine about perking the spit until i figured out how to escape and recover to kill them. Honestly i dont think it needs perked, but i do wish ther was SOMETHING to control its population.. yes, yes, i know it was mass-produced in WWII, but you know this is not a flight sim simulating WWII, its a giant complex death match with WWII AC.

Anyone who says the SpitIX is a "slow air-craft" is full of it, that damn thing can dive like a bullet. Its easily out-matched at high speeds in the right plane, but none the less it is not a slow air-craft buy any means.


24 Kills of Spitfire Mk IX vrs 9 Deaths by Spitfire Mk IX (not bad for a tin-horn like me! )

5 Kills of SpitV  vrs 2 Deaths by SpitV
(dont get slow in a jug near this sumsqueak!)

(0 to 0 vrs seafire)



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Socrates is such a idiot, ive not ONCE in the last 6 months seen that fool logged in and not whine and complain the entire time he is present.. ive yet to figure out why he continues to play a game he seems to despise so much.. maybe he went for that 6 month deal?

[Kieran]

I was one to squeak and whine about perking the spit until i figured out how to escape and recover to kill them.

That is exactly right. Once they are figured out, they are nothing special in the hands of most pilots. Good, but not too good. Fast, but not too fast. Maneuverable, but not overly so.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by AKEagle+
Nefarious

Unperk the C Hog?   Ain't gonna happen my friend.  This arena is anti Corsair, just count it lucky the F4U-D isn't perked 8 pts too

Need a cannon plane?  Take the Huricane C model, 4 Hispanos, just like the C Hog, does pretty nice for gv busting.  No perk points, after all, it isn't American, it isn't Blue, and it isn't a Corsair. No point in perking it

Or take an 190 A8 if you really want firepower. Not perked either (it's LW) and a heck of a lot more punch than any C Hog.

Take a snoot full from a A8 who HOs you and you'll know what I mean. U be walking back to your hangar with your privates in a paper bag toot sweet.

AKEagle+

I agree, take the Hurricane IIC and you'll be surprised at the result. I'm 54 and 16 with it, counting being vulched numerous times because it is an extremely effective fighter in airfield defense and I'll risk the vulching just to get one airborne. Survive that first clearing turn and you'll make mincemeat of any knucklehead silly enough to try turning with you. I view the Zeke as the cure for the N1K2, and the Hurricane is the same to the Spitfire. I'm 12 and 1 against all Spitfires while flying the
Hurricane (7/1 against Mk.IX, 4/0 against Mk.V and 1/0 against Seafire). The lone Spitfire kill of my Hurri occurred while I was still on the runway. Yeah, the Zeke can turn a bit tighter, but that's easy to offset since most Zeke drivers don't really fly the fighter to its full potential anyway, as the advantage of the Zeke is only in stallfighting. Keep your speed at corner, or even higher, and the Zeke's inability to roll kills its effectiveness.

My regards,

Widewing

Try the Hurricane, master it, and you will be a genuine pain in the neck to all of those who view it as an easy mark.

[Wotan]

Put it this way a squaddie of mine new to ah calls over squad channel he needs help a spit is giving him fits.

I am 15 miles away and instead of rushing there and killing it for him. I type you're on your own. I give him several basic pointers.

Hes in a d9 he can just leave when he wants. I tell him hes got to learn how to engage them. So he keeps up the attack. I tell him he needs to get more aggressive and not give the spit too much time to recover. I tell him make his reverse sooner and to get on the trigger sooner. After that I go do some jabo after a few minutes "Victory 1 by xxxx of 3./JG2"

Once you understand the spit he can be engaged and killed at will.

A hi spit is the toughest it will out accelerate most planes in a dive and will hold its e.

So is diving from a spit thats d 1.5 k on your 6 a good idea? Nope.

What I do is start a spiral dive by pushing my stick to the upper right and use steady rudder and enter a tight decending spiral.

The spit will over shoot after 1 or 2 turns depending on his speed. I level in the opposite direction of the spit to build more speed and  then grab.  Then spit boy loses his advantage I kill him.

Simply pointing your nose down to dive from a spit wont work.