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« on: March 04, 2002, 07:01:26 AM »
Is there a way to use the rotary  for triming ?

Or is this a planed evolution for AH ?

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Re: rotary axis support...
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2002, 07:14:11 AM »
What kind of controls do u use?

In the case u use TM TQS, it is very easy to program pitch trimming in the right side rotary knob.

U setup a range of nose up trim key strokes for up range and similar for nose down. The number of key strokes should be equivalent to the needed to trim all the range of the nose trimming.

Let me explain without ugly maths. Just trim nose full down, and then start to do single key presses for nose up trim. Once u get to the maximum nose up possition, program that number of key strokes for up and down range of the wheel. This way, from the center of the whell u have range enough to trim the entire range up or down.

Just remember to center the wheel each time u engange any autotrim mode.

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2002, 07:26:29 AM »
It's for a X36 .

Btw I can do like you using SGE but I would prefer a real analogic (sp?) triming like in that other sim about east front (no I don't have named it :D))

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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2002, 11:39:14 AM »
Yes Straffo, would be nice as hell. Specially since trims in AH move so freaking slow.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2002, 04:22:35 PM »
Uhh, Wilbus... Real aircraft trim does move slow... that's why it's called trim.
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2002, 04:24:51 PM »
Dux, depends much on Airplane I guess, I am a real life pilot, and my trim sure as hell don't move slow. Trim isn't supoesed to move slow, it's suposed to be accurate, can move fast.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2002, 04:32:44 PM »
Good point, Wilbus... depends on aircraft. I've never felt that AH trims were slower than the R/L ones I've used. Then again, I've only ever used manual (wheel) trim, and not anything servo-driven.
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2002, 07:57:48 AM »
Well, I am only flying gliders my self, flown Cherokee aswell where the trim IS slow and is made by a little wheel over your head. IN th glider however, you can move the trim from fully back to fully forward in less then a second if you want to.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2002, 02:04:54 PM »
works fine for me with x36 or x45.

just need to band it into three zones so center is off and it stays were u leave it ...

think we've had this discussion before :)

been using it with the 109 very well, just have to keep an eye on ur trim status. Better than the keyboard for me.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2002, 03:35:50 PM »
Not quite what we mean Eagler, in IL2, you set the wheel to be the trim, then you move the wheel 20% left and surface, let's say elevator moves 20%, it doesn't keep moving like in AH, 20% wheel = 20% elevator moved etc.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2002, 04:10:44 PM »
Wilbus

I know what you mean, but can't you get about the same thing with the setup I describe?
You just pull the wheel back to center (dead zone) to stop trim where you want.
 I find the trim in IL2 weird as I cannot see how much I have kicked in.
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2002, 04:17:55 PM »
Rotary Axis support? I'm so sick of this bias towards the Axis. WTF is up with that. I want there to be Rotary Allied support just like there was IRL.

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2002, 04:45:21 PM »
Eagler, well, I tried it before returning my X36 (didn't quite work, the stick that is) but it's not the same thing, as you said, you have to return it to the center, I didn't quite like this, I guess it's just a matter of getting used to, but with the IL2 way it feels more real, one place on the wheel is a certain place on the trim, doens't just keep going and going untill you center it.

matter of getting used to though, personally  hope HTC can add suport as it is in IL2, you can always use the other way anyway :)
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2002, 07:23:28 AM »
Because AH trim is ON/OFF type, I use from trimming X36 mouse hat.
It works fine and I dont need take a look to the trim "gauges" because I can "feel" (ie. stick position vs FE information) my virtual plane.

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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2002, 09:36:48 AM »
I tried setting my X36 up with bands, but I don't like that you have to move it, then move it back to stop it when it gets where you want to go, so I use my 'thumb' rotary for my wheel brakes, which just seems like a sad mis-use.  I'd love to see support for both of them as elevator and aileron trim.  I might even tear up.