Damn :(

[Udie at Work]

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 This sux  I'm sure that Al Queda is getting a good pasting, but I hate losing Americans.   6 more have paid the price to keep us free,  all I'm sure younger than most of us here.  God be with them and their families

  I've got/had a fealing that when winter ends over there we'll start seeing alot more action from Al Queda.  I guess this is good it means more of them to die......

[Eagler]

Never heard of a war in which soldiers didn't die...

Very sad indeed, especially for those close to them but it has to be accepted as the cost of freedom from the nutbags of the world who back and support terrorism.. Some in DC already as murmoring we are in too deep. Wait till NOv. If we don't have another attack b4 then, you'll see the divide grow even larger. If there is another attack, everyone will run to the nearest flagpole and start the group hug all over again...

Seems strange that every death makes headlines, like the media either thought we could go into this, accomplish our objective and leave unscathed or they are just greasing their anti-war gears for later ...

Personally it just pisses me off further to hear about Americans dying over there cleaning up the worlds scum. THe next news "flash" I'd like to see is when McDOnald's opens in central Afganastan on its new HUGE paved parking lot ....

what ppl have to remeber is every American life lost in this war hasn't been lost in vain. They have given us terrorist free months since we started it..
If we hadn't invaded Afgan, how many other attacks do you think could have been planned and carried out on us?

[Udie at Work]

Originally posted by Eagler
Never heard of a war in which soldiers didn't die...

Very sad indeed, especially for those close to them but it has to be accepted as the cost of freedom from the nutbags of the world who back and support terrorism.. Some in DC already as murmoring we are in too deep. Wait till NOv. If we don't have another attack b4 then, you'll see the divide grow even larger. If there is another attack, everyone will run to the nearest flagpole and start the group hug all over again...

Seems strange that every death makes headlines, like the media either thought we could go into this, accomplish our objective and leave unscathed or they are just greasing their anti-war gears for later ...

Personally it just pisses me off further to hear about Americans dying over there cleaning up the worlds scum. THe next news "flash" I'd like to see is when McDOnald's opens in central Afganastan on its new HUGE paved parking lot ....

what ppl have to remeber is every American life lost in this war hasn't been lost in vain. They have given us terrorist free months since we started it..
If we hadn't invaded Afgan, how many other attacks do you think could have been planned and carried out on us?

 I couldn't agree more Eagler!  In the past I probobly would have done soul searching to see if I thought we were in this for the right reason....  Now hearing of these combat deaths makes me want to go join and serve my country (probobly a bit late for that now )  The only upshot to this is that they are reporting HUNDREDS of Al Queda deaths from this battle  Our boys are doing us proud over there right now.

 Screw the Hollings and Dashles in our congress, these guys don't have a freaking clue and are playing election year political games when we are at war,  I hope that AMERICANS will see through their toejam and send them home at the next available oportunity.....

[narsus]

It's unfortunate, Americans don't seem to have long term memory, or they get bored with causes... truly  a pity.

[Sandman]

I think Daschle is right to question the presidency. That's his job.

Checks and balances...

[Udie at Work]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I think Daschle is right to question the presidency. That's his job.

Checks and balances...

 TO a point I agree, but when it comes to stuff like this he should go up to Bush personaly and talk, NOT IN FRONT OF CAMERAS He's playing pure election year politics when we are at war, that to me is unforgivable.    His intentions are to find ANYTHING to use agains Bush and/or Republicans so that the Democrats maintain control of the Senate (please God don't let that happen).  He's a freakin disgrace to our nation as far as I'm conserned, him and Fritz Hollins or what ever his foghorn leghorn sounded sorry bellybutton name is.

 If Dashle was really worried about the direction of the war he'd go to BUSH and talk, not the media.  There is nothing the media can do to help the direction of this war which leads me to think that he's trying to damage the Presidents high poll numbers, sad and at a time of war could be dangerous...............

[SirLoin]

My condolences to the families of the Americans killed...I hope my country(Canada) can get in there too with our meager forces and help squash these fanatical fukheads...Send them all to Alah and thier 87 virgins.

[Krusher]

Originally posted by SirLoin
My condolences to the families of the Americans killed...I hope my country(Canada) can get in there too with our meager forces and help squash these fanatical fukheads...Send them all to Alah and thier 87 virgins.

If I am not mistaken your Canadian special forces are part of this battle along with French, British and Norwegian service men.

[10Bears]

Udie wrote:

TO a point I agree, but when it comes to stuff like this he should go up to Bush personaly and talk, NOT IN FRONT OF CAMERAS He's playing pure election year politics when we are at war, that to me is unforgivable.

But back in 1999..
Lott On Clinton's Military Intervention in Iraq:

Senator Trent Lott (Republican, Majority Leader): "It's a--a responsible thing for a number of us, including me, to say when--I think that the policy of the timing is questionable, and I have done that."  (CNBC News Transcripts December 17, 1998)

"Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) announced, 'I cannot support this military action in the Persian Gulf at this time...Both the timing and the policy are subject to question.'" (New York Daily News, December 17, 1998)

"Senator Lott, who surprised some Republicans with his statement of opposition to an overseas military enterprise, said he favored a 'more clearly defined' operation." (New York Times, December 17,1998)

George W. Bush On Military Intervention:

"But I'm going to be judicious as to how to use the military.  It needs to be in our vital interest, the mission needs to be clear, and the exit strategy obvious." (Transcript, second presidential debate, November 11, 2000)

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) On Bush's War on Terrorism:

Question: "... Senator Byrd had discussed an expansion without direction. Can you elaborate on the (inaudible) of that?"

Senator Tom Daschle: "Well, I think there is expansion without at least a clear direction to date. But we will continue to ask the questions required to better understand that direction. And before we make commitments in resources, I think we need to have a clearer understanding of what the direction will be."  (Daschle Press Conference, February 28, 2002)

Lott on Daschle:

"How dare Sen. Daschle criticize President Bush while we are fighting our war on terrorism, especially when we have troops in the field?" (Reuters, February 28, 2002)

Hehehe

[Udie at Work]

Originally posted by 10Bears
Udie wrote:



But back in 1999..
Lott On Clinton's Military Intervention in Iraq:

Senator Trent Lott (Republican, Majority Leader): "It's a--a responsible thing for a number of us, including me, to say when--I think that the policy of the timing is questionable, and I have done that."  (CNBC News Transcripts December 17, 1998)


 Was that the "war" clinton started literally 10 min before his house impeachment hearing started and ended literally within 15 minutes of the hearing's completion?  Clinton's squealing lucky he doesn't get handed over as a war criminal......

"Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) announced, 'I cannot support this military action in the Persian Gulf at this time...Both the timing and the policy are subject to question.'" (New York Daily News, December 17, 1998)

 same "war"  to cover his sorry IMPEACHED[/]b ass, a criminal act in my opinion (thank god for clinton my opinioin doesn't matter )

"Senator Lott, who surprised some Republicans with his statement of opposition to an overseas military enterprise, said he favored a 'more clearly defined' operation." (New York Times, December 17,1998)


 again the same "criminal war"............................. ..............

George W. Bush On Military Intervention:

"But I'm going to be judicious as to how to use the military.  It needs to be in our vital interest, the mission needs to be clear, and the exit strategy obvious." (Transcript, second presidential debate, November 11, 2000)


 Had Bush started this war I'm sure he would have done so just like that, just remember who started this war ok.....

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) On Bush's War on Terrorism:

Question: "... Senator Byrd had discussed an expansion without direction. Can you elaborate on the (inaudible) of that?"

Senator Tom Daschle: "Well, I think there is expansion without at least a clear direction to date. But we will continue to ask the questions required to better understand that direction. And before we make commitments in resources, I think we need to have a clearer understanding of what the direction will be."  (Daschle Press Conference, February 28, 2002)



UM TO KILL ALL TERRORISTS where ever they are!!!! you  f**king handsomehunk liberal!!!!:mad:




Lott on Daschle:

"How dare Sen. Daschle criticize President Bush while we are fighting our war on terrorism, especially when we have troops in the field?" (Reuters, February 28, 2002)


 He's absolutely freakin spot on correct.  Damazinhunk is a politician thru and thru I doubt he knows how to spell the word strategy much less understand it's defenition.   Lott's a hypocrite too, but in this instance he is absolutely correct.

 Just so you know,  I have about as much respect for lott as I do dashle................

Hehehe

 Glad to know you think this is all funny......

[midnight Target]

We missed you Udie.

Lott had come under attack from Democrats and some behind-the-scenes grousing from Republicans Wednesday when he said he could not support Clinton's military action -- a move that defied a long-standing tradition that party leaders close ranks when American troops are engaged in hostilities.

By contrast, other senior Senate Republicans, including the chairmen of the three major national security committees, supported the operation and few made even passing references to the impeachment proceedings. While many House Republicans accused the president of provoking war to save his presidency, outgoing House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) and Speaker-designate Bob Livingston (R-La.) supported the airstrikes. Voting 417 to 5, the House yesterday adopted a resolution of support for U.S. troops.

417-5 wow, sounds like it just might have been legit. Or possibly there are only 5 intelligent Congressmen.

[easymo]

I cant belive you guys are bringing up politicians, in the same thread as our fallen soldiers.

[midnight Target]

Well, its not the most blatant hijack ever but........ easymo has a point.

This was a tribute to our fallen and in that spirit I give my and THANK YOU to those who have sacrificed for our freedoms.

One of which is to carry on these political discussions. God Bless America.

[10Bears]

Udie, We all feel bad about the down chopper. Then you start with the blame Democrats that’s trolling.

Was that the "war" clinton started literally 10 min before his house impeachment hearing started and ended literally within 15 minutes of the hearing's completion? Clinton's squealing lucky he doesn't get handed over as a war criminal......

No, Bush daddy started that war, Saddam kicked out the inspectors so he gets bombed for it. But that doesn’t matter, Lott made these comments while troops were in the field in harms way.

again the same "criminal war"............................. ..............

If it’s such a criminal war why are we fixing to bust his bellybutton some more?

Had Bush started this war I'm sure he would have done so just like that, just remember who started this war ok.....

The CIA?... Relax Udie just kidding.. They tell us it was a band of terrorists from Saudi Arabia. Maybe we need the Canadians to teach us how to read maps because we seem to be about 600 miles off target. You mention the term “war”.. There’s been no declaration of war -- the detainees at camp X-ray have not been given POW status. You can’t declare war on a pro noun.

same "war" to cover his sorry IMPEACHED ass, a criminal act in my opinion (thank god for clinton my opinioin doesn't matter

Was 17 Dec ‘98 before or after he was impeached for lying about blow jobs? heh.. you should read “The Hunting of a President” by Gene Lyons and Joe Carolson (sp)  two writers/pundets who were NOT Enron “consultants“.

UM TO KILL ALL TERRORISTS where ever they are!!!! you f**king handsomehunk liberal!!!!

Maybe you agree with Ann Coulter that a few liberals oughta be taken out and shot as an example to all the rest.

I find it interesting that most of the real combat veterans are on the Democratic side in the house. All the hawks seem to be Republican. There‘s a word for that.

Hehehe




Glad to know you think this is all funny......

What’s funny is I’m able to locate the actual quotes from 3 years ago in less than 5 minutes.

Here Udie to show I’m not a mean guy... have some political links
http://bartcop.com/ Bart is waiting for Udie to come and debate
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/latest sure you want to be aligned with these guys?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi
Their fast with breaking news.. a little to left even for me
http://www.buzzflash.com/ quick on breaking news
http://www.mediapotatosonline.com/ like the name implys
http://stratfor.com/ military news -no spin-
http://vhosts.usits4.hotwww.com/larouche/thaddeus/index.htm
You claim to be a Republican... read what a real Republican has to say.. Ted Stevens

[Udie]

Originally posted by 10Bears
Udie, We all feel bad about the down chopper. Then you start with the blame Democrats that’s trolling.

 Please point out where I blamed any Democrat for the downing of the chopper?  Oh yeah you can't because I didn't!  (typical democrat tactic of trying to put words into my mouth)  I haven't blamed anybody for the loss of our troops, hell 1/2 of them were probobly Democrats.  It sucks, they were Americans fighting a war for our freedom.


 No, Bush daddy started that war, Saddam kicked out the inspectors so he gets bombed for it. But that doesn’t matter, Lott made these comments while troops were in the field in harms way.

 No, Saddam started that war.  Bush did exactly what he said he would do and kicked him out of Kuwait and stopped him from invading Suadi Arabia.  Had it not been for you pinko commie anti-any-kind-of-war-even-just-ones  Bush would have been able to finish the job, I blame him for not doing it anyway.

 You know what I'll give ya,  ok Lott was wrong for critisizing, on tv to the talking heads, Clinton's attack on Iraq.   Though I'm sure he probobly tried to do it in private, but with Clinton that was quite impossible.  That has no bearing on Dashle.  He's out to damage Bush on any issue the American people will believe. (as Lott was Clinton)  They tried Enron , didn't/hasn't worked yet. (hmmm how much have they looked into the Clinton administrations dealings with Enron?  All/Most of the illegal stuff happened under Clinton's term)  They've tried pinning the recession and his joke of a tax cut, that hasn't even been fully implimented, on him, didn't work.  Now they're going for the real scare tactics, it won't work.

 They say Bush isn't telling them enough.  Well, I can remember just a few short months ago in October when he did share information with congress and EVERY F**KING THING HE TOLD THEM THEY TOLD THE PRESS.  Congress is a joke and can't be trusted to keep what they had for breakfast a secret much less national security issues.  Dashle needs to keep the F away from the cameras and get to the business of the Senate, like er... um... voting on Bush's federal judge apointees and stuff like that.  Or..... um.... the freaking energy bill he's been sitting on.  

If it’s such a criminal war why are we fixing to bust his bellybutton some more?

 Ofcourse that's my subjective opinion based on what I consider the fact that he just dropped a few smart bombs on them to keep his sorry assed impeachment off the tv for 1/2 of the 20 minute soundbite orum...er... the news.  When Saddam kicked out the inspectors we should have put the 500,000 troops back on the ground and kicked him out.  Clinton let him get away with it...


The CIA?... Relax Udie just kidding.. They tell us it was a band of terrorists from Saudi Arabia. Maybe we need the Canadians to teach us how to read maps because we seem to be about 600 miles off target.

 Come on man I know you're not an idiot.  Where was the leader of the terrorist group who attacked us based at?  That was just a stupid paragraph man, I hope you're not that simple minded.

You mention the term “war”.. There’s been no declaration of war -- the detainees at camp X-ray have not been given POW status. You can’t declare war on a pro noun.

 when was the last time they did?  They don't have enough spine to do that or they don't want to afford our enemies the supposed rights a declaration of war would give them.

Was 17 Dec ‘98 before or after he was impeached for lying about blow jobs? heh.. you should read “The Hunting of a President” by Gene Lyons and Joe Carolson (sp) two writers/pundets who were NOT Enron “consultants“.


 just to correct you, he lied under oath.  It doesn't matter what it was about.

Maybe you agree with Ann Coulter that a few liberals oughta be taken out and shot as an example to all the rest.

 classy statement there 10bears

I find it interesting that most of the real combat veterans are on the Democratic side in the house. All the hawks seem to be Republican. There‘s a word for that

 Funny most I know are Republican and HATE Democrats even worse than I do.  Ole Joe Lieberman seems to be quite a hawk nowadays too, he was the first member of congress I heard call for an attack on Iraq, way back in October.  I think the word you're looking for is a phrase "full of toejam". Which is funny because that's just what I think you happen to be


What’s funny is I’m able to locate the actual quotes from 3 years ago in less than 5 minutes.

 heh I can spell google too.  It was a busy day at work so I didn't have any time to look stuff up and after a twelve hour workday I don't have the will now at home.  I wasn't going to respond to this, but you know me see a wall and I just gotta push against it

 Anyway, I this isn't what I started this thread for.  I let Eaglers response get me fired up becaues he posted almost exactly what's on my mind.   Though I guess this is exactly what they are over there fighting for.

 I don't guess it matters much anyway, there's just too many freakin idiots out there that one day they are going to F it up for the rest of us.  Kaboooooom!



 Sorry easymo

 hiya Tahgut