Hey! The Catholics Now Have A Policy

[Sandman]

Zero tolerance for child molestation.

Odd though... last year the tolerance policy wasn't zero. I wonder how many little boys it took to break the camels back. Was five acceptable before? Or was it ten? Maybe a hundred?

Celibacy is deviant sexual behavior. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't trust leaving my children among sexual deviants.

[Toad]

Child molesters?

Plenty of jobs available stretching pieces of new rope.

But that's just me.

[Elfenwolf]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Zero tolerance for child molestation.

Odd though... last year the tolerance policy wasn't zero. I wonder how many little boys it took to break the camels back. Was five acceptable before? Or was it ten? Maybe a hundred?

Celibacy is deviant sexual behavior. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't trust leaving my children among sexual deviants.

I don't think the question was ever one of morality SandMan. I think it's a question of lawsuits and dollars and bad PR that caused the Vatican to reverse their previous stance.

[Sandman]

Ah... I get it... "We'll overlook the immorality because it's going to cost a lot otherwise."

Right?

[mrfish]

yeah, i heard today that they are going to ask them to retire.

wow! spare no discipline eh? they might even revoke their commisary privileges at that rate.

at least all those violated kids can rest in the comfort that their suffering is all part of a silent god's secret plan.

[Elfenwolf]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Ah... I get it... "We'll overlook the immorality because it's going to cost a lot otherwise."

Right?

No, it's the immoral behavior that costs archdioceses (sp) so much in lawsuit settlements and bad PR. Until now SOP was to transfer sexual predators. What do YOU think suddenly caused this miracleous reversal in policy? They saw God?
You're right though about celabicy being abnormal (deviant is too strong a word) behavior. It's unfortunate Catholics don't allow priests to marry or allow women to become priests. I can understand the logic behind "Marriage To God" but in today's practical society all these antequated policies accomplish is to attract homosexual predators to the Priesthood.
Now before you rip me as anti-Catholic I recognize that the vast majority of Priests are dedicated Men of God who do our Lord's work with the understanding that once they pass on to Heaven as Martyrs they will be blessed with 72 virgin alter boys to attend them, and I realize it's only 40% or so of Priests who molest children anyway, so I don't want to paint the entire Catholic Priesthood with such a broad brush.

[Sandman]

Hmmm... out here in the "real" world, we transfer our sexual predators also. They get to do "penance" in a federal facility built exclusively for the purpose rather than being transferred to newer more fertile, less litigous hunting grounds.

Only 40%?

[Vulcan]

Well, you guys don't realize it but theres been a toejamfight in Aussie over the current Governer General (Dr Hollingworth), he was a Archbishit or something previously and apparently turned a blind eye to some kiddie-fiddling priest.

I think Anglican or something... bah they're all the same to me.

[Ripsnort]

Its a pattern, every BBS I've ever visited where religion was brought up, it is always brought up negatively by non-believers first Must be an insecurity thing.

[Eagler]

"Celibacy is deviant sexual behavior"



yea sure. I guess abstinence from sexual activities is "abnormal" too.... grow up.

small % of priests are pervs, just like a small % of bus drivers, teachers, politicains, name ur profession .....

A much greater % of priests are doing God's work by spreading His Word ... to those who have the need/desire to hear it.

[Sandman]

yea sure. I guess abstinence from sexual activities is "abnormal" too.... grow up.

Abstinence from all sexual activity IS celibacy. I'll re-phrase the above statement if it'll make you happy. "Lifelong celibacy is deviant sexual behavior." Note... I didn't say deviant sex. I said deviant behavior. Wake up. It's not normal and it can't possibly be healthy.

Read this.

When one looks at the history of celibacy in the Catholic Church, it soon becomes apparent that this state of life became mandatory due to financial considerations, not because priests were supposed to emulate Christ by remaining single. When one focuses more specifically upon the medieval period, we can clearly see that church property was donated by kings and princes in exchange for faithful service. A controversy arose when married priests in turn left this property to their heirs.

...and this:

The idea of mandatory celibacy did not originate in Christianity and was, in fact, discouraged in Jewish tradition and practice. An unmarried rabbi was viewed with suspicion. Ritual purity for the priesthood was a pagan concept based on distorted views of sexuality as evil, dangerous and destructive.

[Eagler]

So every monk and nun who doesn't have sex is abnormal?

News Flash!

Sex ain't everything and there are many who don't place it in the top ten in their life. The world would be a better place if more did so too....

I know this is hard to understand for some/many, but when your hormones calm down you'll get it

[midnight Target]

You got it backwards

Its not the celibacy or the Preisthood that creates pedophiles, its the access to potential victims that draws them.

Pedophiles tend to get jobs that allow them to perpetrate their deviances. Coaches, clowns, daycare workers, priests, the list goes on. If you were to look into the percentage of all little league coaches that are pedophiles it would probably be higher than the national average for all other occupations, just as the number in the preisthood is probably higher.
Coaching young people doesn't make you a pedophile, and neither does celibate priesthood. They are both just attractive jobs to these sickos.

[mrfish]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Its a pattern, every BBS I've ever visited where religion was brought up, it is always brought up negatively by non-believers first Must be an insecurity thing.

that doesn't even make sense.

'spiteful' or 'malicious' would have been a better choice of words (not accurate but at least appropriate for your accusation) but i hardly see what the pagans are 'insecure' about. going against the tide of people who blindly believe? many of your believer cohorts would love to kill 'non-believers'. millions have died for being 'non-believers' i hardly see how that suggests insecurity.

i'll grant you the phrase "must be an insecurity thing" does have a lot of mileage, and is great to pull out of your bag of phrases in a lot of situations:   like when a balding, newly middle-class, newly middle-age guy buys a sportscar and then talks on and on and on about it to impress his friends for example, but i'm afraid you are asking more than the phrase is capable of delivering here.

i would say another great example of insecurity would be someone clinging to the hope that some dead guy from 2000 years ago is gonna come back and make it all better some day. or fearing the uncertainty of death or the responsibility of controling your own actions or being responsible for your own deeds - that's insecurity. closing your eyes and fading off into some religious rapture and mumbling in tougues when the going gets tough - that hints of insecurity also.

pointing out that religion is a front for homosexual pedophiles (not to mention con artists, people who prey on the weak and old, dictators, etc) is called truth telling. you can tell because there are an abundance of factual examnples knocking down my door just waiting to be posted. you even refer to regular people as 'non-believers' setting a negative tone.

its just the next phase in shining the light of day on all the dark secret corners of superstition - it won't hurt - really.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Eagler
So every monk and nun who doesn't have sex is abnormal?

Bingo!

I know this is hard to understand for some/many, but when your hormones calm down you'll get it

When do you think that'll happen? I'm 40.