Alec the Moron

[Eagler]

Actor Alec Baldwin Criticizes Gov. Bush Over Election Reform
By Brendan Farrington Associated Press Writer
Published: Mar 6, 2002


TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Actor Alec Baldwin was at the Capitol on Wednesday, much to the surprise of Gov. Jeb Bush.
"He had promised he would leave the country if my brother got elected," Bush said during a stop in Orlando. "Well he's back, I guess. We'll welcome him to Tallahassee."

But Baldwin disputed that he said he'd leave the country if George W. Bush were elected.

"I never made that statement, but you can tell Gov. Bush to rest assured that I'm not going to leave the country because we have to get him out of office and we have to get his brother out of office in 2004. We're not resting until we get that done."

Even if he had made the statement, Baldwin said there was still no reason to leave.

"Bush wasn't elected, he was selected - selected by five judges up in Washington who voted along party lines," Baldwin said.

Baldwin was in Tallahassee with People for the American Way to criticize Gov. Bush and Florida officials for not doing more to reform Florida's election system.

The state was the focus of the world during the 2000 presidential election when it took five weeks to declare George W. Bush the winner.

The election dispute ended when the U.S. Supreme Court stopped a recount. Many Democrats believe Al Gore would have won the election if the recount had not been stopped.

Lt. Gov. Frank Brogan got in on the discussion, saying outside the Capitol, "I haven't seen any of Alec Baldwin's work myself; I understand he's mildly talented."
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Good one Brogan

Funny to watch him on the local news. Up there sweating, so busy reading his speech he couldn't even look up at the audience.

The only white guy in the room .... what a joke.  He wasn't talking about the election process, what I saw had him slamming the Gov for decreasing Florida's affirmative action crap.

[popeye]

I wonder what the reaction would have been if Gore had lost the popular vote, then been appointed President by the Democrats on the Supreme Court, after a disputed election in a state where his brother was the Governor.

I guess the Right Wing would have just accepted the situation, and moved on for the good of the country.  

[Sikboy]

No, the right wing would have spent the next 4 years squeaking about it, and the left wing would make fun of them when they did. We all have a roll to play, I'm glad to see the system working

-Sikboy

[Tac]

The system works as designed. He who is best at lying ,he who has the "connections" wins.

[Toad]

News Item 1 :  Sadly for some, in the election for the Presidency of the United States, winning the "overall national popular vote" has no bearing on who gets to sit in the Oval Office for the next four years. The Electoral College, set up by the old smart guys that actually designed and put this government into effect, determines who gets to sit in the Oval Office.

Psychologists and Psychiatrists alike suggest that those still maudlin over the results of the popular vote/Oval Office just get over it and move on.... because it's going to be the same way in 2004: Electoral College decides.  

News Item 2: Florida voter errors cost Gore the election

05/11/2001

"George W. Bush would have won a hand recount of all disputed ballots in Florida's presidential election if the most widely accepted standard for judging votes had been applied, the first comprehensive examination of the ballots shows."

Sadly for some, reality and perception are not the same thing. Bush won Florida and with it the election. Bush won Florida and with it the election.  Bush won Florida and with it the election.  A sad note is that had Gore been able to win his HOME STATE... Gore would have won the election.  

Psychologists and Psychiatrists alike suggest that those still maudlin over the results of the Florida vote/Oval Office just get over it and move on...

News Item 3:
Alec Baldwin’s Clintonesque definition of "leave."

"...A Sunday AP dispatch from Munich announced: "Baldwins Will Leave if Bush Wins." The story read, in full:

"If George W. Bush wins the U.S. presidential election this November, he may not be the only one moving into a new house.

"Kim Basinger said her husband, actor and Democratic party activist Alec Baldwin, was serious when he said he would leave the United States if the Republican wins....

Monday night Hume played this soundbite from Baldwin standing somewhere outdoors: "I think my exact comment was that if Bush won it would be a good time to leave the United States. I’m not necessarily going to leave the United States."

Off-camera female reporter: "You’re not really going anywhere."

Baldwin: "I might go on a long vacation."


Psychologists and Psychiatrists alike suggest that the Baldwins just get over it and move on...


I hope the Dems can finally field a true "centrist" Presidential Candidate in 2004. Bush sure wasn't my first choice but he was laps and laps ahead of Gore in 2000 in that race for me. Just my .02.

[Sandman]

"I haven't seen any of Alec Baldwin's work myself; I understand he's mildly talented."

Mildly is probably the right word.  I can't stand Baldwin.

Oh... except for "The Hunt For Red October". Thot he was perfect for that... then again... I don't much like Jack Ryan, but that probably has more to do with Clancy turning him into a mouthpiece for his own political agenda than anything else.

I could ramble on some more...

[Ripsnort]

I know one thing for certain, Jimmy Doolittle was doing flip flops in his grave when Hollyweird cast Baldwin to portray Doolittles character in "Pearl Harbour".

[mrfish]

that's funny, seriously - one of the first things i thought of when bush won (and he did win) was woohoo! we get rid of alec baldwin. and hopefully he will take that nagging sickly squeak with him.

sorry to see he was just teasing us.

[LePaul]

Wasn't Cher moving too?

Hmm, funny how the rules change when they loose.  

They have that Clinton-esque-Denial-knee-jerk thing working well, eh?

[CptTrips]

I don't have the link handy so back off gore-nazi's.

But didn't I see on CNN where one of the newspapers had actually gone back and recounted ALL the ballots that gore wanted counted for a 4th time using the same criteria as the counties had established and even after the 4th recount Bush STILL won?

Maybe I just imagined that.  

That didn't get nearly as much play as it should have my the liberal monopolized press.

"Mildly talented..."  chuckle chuckle chuckle...


Wab

[narsus]

Yes AK was on cnn.com and on the news for about 30 seconds worth of coverage

[Gadfly]

The problem with the media recount was the same as during the election.  There was, and is, no statewide(hell, no countywide) standard for what counted and what did not.  Had you taken the time to actually study the events that took place, as opposed to watching the news, you would realize that that is why the Supreme Court decided not to allow the recount.


The main problem with us(me included) is that we are smply not critical enough to actually study the facts; we prefer to take the easy way out and believe what ever we are spoon-fed by the media.

[CptTrips]

>Had you taken the time to actually study the events that took
>place, as opposed to watching the news, you would realize that
>that is why the Supreme Court decided not to allow the recount.

I think the courts decision was much narrower than that.  According to the election laws of Florida ON THE BOOKS AT THE TIME OF THE ELECTION the gorites were not entitled to YET another recount.  The court decided the gorites were trying to change the election laws on the fly to what ever best suited their agenda.

In any case, I think they should have settled it THUNDERDOME style: " TWO GO IN, ONE COMES OUT...TWO GO IN ONE COMES OUT"

THAT would have really boosted CNN's ratings.


Besides, I think Bush could take him.


Wab

[Gadfly]

You are correct, but that issue would have been overruled, Had there been a viable and consistant method to do the recount.

Personally, I am all for the 2 man enter, one man leaves solution.

[Toad]

High Noon, Main Street, Colt Peacemakers at 10 yards.