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Offline FDisk

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« on: March 07, 2002, 01:45:57 PM »
Hi, I just got a twistie stick.

I've got my rudders working now but I remember flying at 16 and having rudders swing my Cessna ALOT more that in AH.

ok, to the question.

How do I preforms Hi/lo yoyo's with the stick? I seem not to be able to swing my tail over me.. what am I doing wrong?

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2002, 02:57:19 PM »
AH doesn't have a Cessna yet so how can you make that comparision?  :)

There is no rudder induced tail swinging in high and low yoyos.
Maybe you're thinking of a different maneuver.


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Offline FDisk

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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2002, 03:40:21 PM »
You're right I am thinking of another manuver.

The one I'm thinking of is when you use your momentum on your tail and swing it back around (and above) you making your extend time (turn around) almost nothing. Your left wing tip would stay almost stationary.


(BTW I just remember almost turning totally sideways when I hit the rudders in the cessna 172. Scared the hell outta me)

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2002, 04:06:30 PM »
The HammerHead is a trick where you pull full straight up, lose forward velocity, and when plane is about to flip over, push full rudder to flip your nose about.

Part of Rope-a-Dope.

Haven't seen it used in AH too much, at least, I haven't felt for it.

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Offline FDisk

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2002, 06:29:45 PM »
I (sort of) know how to do a hammerhead. It would be like that but horizontal

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2002, 04:31:07 PM »
FDisk

There is a maneuver known as the "Luftwaffe Stomp" that gained some recognition in Air Warrior forum discussions.

The idea was to initially yaw the aircraft into the direction of the bandit's turn as a way of increasing turn rate. Is there any historical basis for this? I don't know and have yet to find a source.

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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2002, 03:18:02 PM »
I don't think the rudder is really going to help much in a high yo-yo unless you are near stall speed.  The plane will just want to snap back to its velocity vector and you will end up pulling an awkward, high drag turn of sorts.

My advice would be to to really emphasize the 'high' part of the yo-yo and use a lot of vertical.  Learn to judge how close to stalling you need to be for the rudder to do anything for you (swing the tail around).

Once you get a feel for this kind of stuff it can really help your reversals (at least it did me).  

Need a nice E advantage over your target to be pulling any maneuvers that involve stalls though.  

IMHO the rudder is more useful in lining up shots and forcing overshoots :).


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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2002, 09:48:47 AM »
Thanks for all the replys guys!

I normally fly the spit V so low E situations are what I live for ;)