Author Topic: AH Definately Needs This Couple Planes (Read 799 times)

HeLLcAt · « **on:** March 10, 2002, 02:24:38 PM »

Everyone!
I think the F8F Bearcat is needed, it might as well be perked right about 8-10 points, because of its climb and speed. The B-29 Superfortress should also be perked and added to AH and also the P-40N Warhawk, which should not be perked. If anybody agrees with me please right back to this post!

~~~BlueiceJ~~~

brady · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2002, 03:07:50 PM »

Bearcat saw no action, theirfore as far as I know is excluded from AH, B 29 would be cool but I would rather see a buff for USSR and Italy first, P 40 is a must.

Jester · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2002, 03:13:16 PM »

We don't need another "Ubber Dweeb Ride".

What we need are planes that are so glaringly missing from the plane set. There are NO dive bombers at all. There are no Axis Carrier planes to speak of except the Zeke. Many land planes are missing - P-40, B-25 German Bombers, Japanese Strike planes & bombers, etc.

J_A_B · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2002, 03:45:00 PM »

The F8F wouldn't be an "uber dweeb ride". Yes, it DID have awesome acceleration and climb, but consider it's weapons.

4 x .50's (the 4 20mm's weren't added until after the war ended)

That is a huge weakness for a perk plane, since it's death for a perkplane to slow down and saddle up on something and 4 x .50's lack the power to kill in snapshots. Were the F8F added to AH, I doubt it'd see as much usage as a F4U-1C or Tempest for that reason. I think the most use the F8F would see would be on H2H servers.

J_A_B

FirstBorg · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2002, 03:49:11 PM »

what is the zeke?

Karnak · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2002, 04:20:42 PM »

FirstBorg,

That is the Allied code name for the A6M Zero.

HeLLcAt · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2002, 05:35:59 PM »

Bearcat did see action in WW2! I thought the armament was 6 x .50's or 4 x 20mm cannons? That would be a pretty sweet ride. We basically need as many planes as we can get. Preferably, The WB III Planeset would be very nice! That would give us a great selection of everything!

HeLLcAt · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2002, 05:37:59 PM »

We do have dive bombers, the TBM Avenger. It's not the best dive bomber, but it suffices doesn't it? AH has really gotten too dweeby anyways. The planes that should be perked aren't, and the people in their are dweebier than ever.

~BlueiceJ~

brady · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2002, 06:02:38 PM »

The TBM is not a dive bomber, the Bearcat did not see action in WW2 unless I am mistaken.

pimpjoe · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2002, 06:59:42 PM »

F8F never saw combat. it was deployed to some squadrons and was on its way to the pacific but the war ended before it could get to its destination. it would be neat to have in AH but not a "must have" kind of plane.

as for the others....we need more Jap and LW stuff before we get a B29. the p40 would be an outstanding plane to have in the set...but like i said...we need more Jap and LW stuff. the italians need WAY more stuff before we get more american birds. IMO

whels · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2002, 07:03:54 PM »

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Originally posted by brady
The TBM is not a dive bomber, the Bearcat did not see action in WW2 unless I am mistaken.

F8F was in production and in operation late in the war. the CV it was on didnt reach the front lines before the war ended.

whels

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2002, 07:49:14 PM »

I cannot point you to the site where I read this because I dont remember it, but the F8F did in fact fly patrols in the Pacific during the last weeks of the war and in my mind that counts as combat time.

Mazz
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hazed- · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2002, 08:44:47 PM »

combat sorties are combat sorties.To be reanked as such surely it has to at least fire at or bomb something of the enemies or better still see and fight an enemy aircraft or something similar.Otherwise its just a sortie and doesnt qualify as 'saw combat'.

J_A_B · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2002, 09:56:08 PM »

I think the question of "did it see combat" regarding the F8F is missing the point.

The F8F would be useless for scenarios. That much is obvious. Since scenarios are the only part of AH which re-creates WW2, they're also the only part of AH where an aircraft's combat record matters. Were the F8F added to AH it obviously wouldn't be for scenarios, so its combat record (or lack thereof) is irrevelant.

What matters more is how the F8F would impact the one place it WOULD be used--the MA. And in this case, I question its usefulness as it would HAVE to be perked but a perk fighter with only 4 .50's wouldn't likely see much airtime. Heck, the F4U-4 with 6 .50's is hardly used and it's also faster than the F8F.

I've got nothing against adding the Bearcat to AH; but I don't really care to see it either. IMO it'd be an interesting plane without a role (much like the TA 152). I feel there are better choices to add right now, both for the MA and for scenarios. The P-40 would definately be a great addition!

J_A_B

Hooligan · « **Reply #14 on:** March 11, 2002, 02:20:01 AM »

Even with only 4x.50s the F8F would be a monster arena aircraft. Someday we will probably get it in AH as a perk or something that can only be flown in some late-war-uber environment.

Hooligan