Author Topic: Unperk the Ta-152 (Read 2173 times)

Urchin · « **Reply #60 on:** August 12, 2001, 05:10:00 PM »

Nashwan, I know you aren't stupid. Go back and READ the grounds. I don't feel like posting them again. However, I never said I want the Spit perked, just that it WOULD BE if it were introduced.

Creamo · « **Reply #61 on:** August 12, 2001, 05:28:00 PM »

I for one am keeping the Ta-152 thread right up at the top until I either a. Get a response from HTC about my email (which is included in the thread btw), b. get a response from HTC in the thread, or c. wake up and find that the Ta-152 has either had its perk cost drastically reduced, or eliminated.

Not that wanting bombers to be unpiloted while you attack is entertaining in a foolish comical way, this thread really isn't that interesting.

Please email HTC again.

Punting this thread as you threaten till you get exactly what you want isn't nessessary, please.

[ 08-12-2001: Message edited by: Creamo ]

Urchin · « **Reply #62 on:** August 12, 2001, 05:52:00 PM »

Yea Creamo- but ya just keep on coming back. Oh, by the way, you never told me what I should have done against you and the Spit, please enlighten me with your vast store of knowledge.

JoeMud · « **Reply #63 on:** August 12, 2001, 07:10:00 PM »

woof woof

pdog_109 · « **Reply #64 on:** August 12, 2001, 07:25:00 PM »

I just have to say something about the site that Urchin posted:

Aircraft of the World
They seemed to leave out Italy and Russia.
Guess those 2 countries don't have aircraft.

DingHao2 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 12, 2001, 07:25:00 PM »

Hey: if Urchin wants to keep this thread @ the top, let him do it. It's his decision whether to express his opinion or not, not your's.

Creamo · « **Reply #66 on:** August 12, 2001, 07:41:00 PM »

He sure can Dingy.

Expressing your opinion is one thing, punting it until HTC meets a silly ultimatum?

Ok.

Urchin · « **Reply #67 on:** August 12, 2001, 10:03:00 PM »

Pdog, they sure did. Didn't even notice that until you brought it up. They've got Romania in there though

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Creamo- it isn't an "ultimatum".

Urchin · « **Reply #68 on:** August 13, 2001, 02:08:00 AM »

Rammed by a C.202 at sea level in a furball. To bad he didn't get credit for the kill, that would have been worth some perks.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #69 on:** August 13, 2001, 07:26:00 AM »

Look, planes are perked because of a) rarity b) low production numbers, c) apparently if used too much (although only used on one aircraft that the same people arguing to unperk the Ta-152 argued to get perked), and d) untouchability.

The Ta-152 is 3 of the 4 above. Rare, low production numbers, and it would be untouchable.

At it's operational altitude, it is untouchable. You can't argue against that.

Kill this thread, you are wasting your time.
-SW

Westy MOL · « **Reply #70 on:** August 13, 2001, 08:38:00 AM »

Planes are perked because of a real or perceived unbalancing effect on the arena.

It's that simple.

And Pyro has said they will continuously monitor the perk system and what planes are in it or belong there. Maybe some day soon the TA-152 will no longer be a perk plane or perhaps one of lower cost. Or it could be it will remain a perk plane for reasons we have not seen yet.

Westy

[ 08-13-2001: Message edited by: Westy MOL ]

Urchin · « **Reply #71 on:** August 13, 2001, 12:41:00 PM »

SW- of COURSE the Ta-152 is untouchable at it's operational altitude (of 40k).Nobody is friggin UP THERE to TOUCH IT. Just remove the plane from the game. It is obviously a niche plane with no niche in Aces High. I'm sure Pyro could take it out and replace it with something that would be used more, like an early version of the I.A.R 80 or something.

Westy- I think the "imbalance" is percieved. Furthermore, I don't see exactly HOW that particular airplane could be imbalancing to the arena. It isn't like there are going to be hordes of marauding Ta-152s flying around, the plane SUCKS below 20k. From 5k to sea level, the planes abilities are truly laughable. I just thought it would be nice to be able to fly something different for a change, maybe get a little more variety. Granted, the Ta-152 has good firepower, and that is the only redeeming feature until you get above 25k. Below that the 109G10 and 190D9 climb faster, turn better (though D9 and 152 turn similar, I think the Dora has an edge), and have a higher top speed. The D9 rolls better as well. And since you and I BOTH know that 99% of the combat in the MA takes place from 10k on down, a planes performance at 40k really shouldn't have any bearing on it's perk price.

So, with that, either remove the Ta-152 or inflate the perk cost back up to 80 points, just do whatever you can to make people not fly it. While you are at it, perk the 109G10 and the 190D9, and make the 109G2 and 190A5 cheap perks (on the order of 40 points or so)- that way you can keep ANYONE from flying the German planes.

Cobra · « **Reply #72 on:** August 13, 2001, 12:50:00 PM »

Urchin,
I want to thank you for bringing laughter into my day.

Cobra

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #73 on:** August 13, 2001, 12:51:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin:
So, with that, either remove the Ta-152 or inflate the perk cost back up to 80 points, just do whatever you can to make people not fly it. While you are at it, perk the 109G10 and the 190D9, and make the 109G2 and 190A5 cheap perks (on the order of 40 points or so)- that way you can keep ANYONE from flying the German planes.

And out the door goes any chance of reasonably explaining why the Ta-152 needs to stay perked.

Chalk this one up as a "LuftWhiner"....
-SW

Urchin · « **Reply #74 on:** August 13, 2001, 12:56:00 PM »

SW- gimme a break. Go ahead and "reasonably" explain why it needs to remain perked. Better yet, scroll up a little bit and refute my "letter" to HTC, point by point. Until then, I'm chalking you up as a moron.

[ 08-13-2001: Message edited by: Urchin ]