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Offline Yeager

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« on: March 18, 2002, 02:01:17 PM »
Being that those lovely fellows in Al Quada keep bragging about the USA about to end, what would it take?  Is it really possible with bio or chemical weapons to destroy the entire USA?

If the USA is hit hard (millions dead) with bio or chems what would the likely response be and what should it be?

Also, lets say the USA is effectively terminated, what is the likely disposition of greater Europe, Asia and central/south America.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2002, 02:12:39 PM »
The most likely scenario would probably be ......

Just me and Claudia Schiffer left alive with a whole supermarket of ribeyes and 18 yr old scotch...........

sry....:D

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2002, 02:23:59 PM »
It would be really tough to take out the whole of the USA...BUT:

Assuming it was bio or chem weapons then surely the effect would not be limited to the continental US.  If biological weapons managed to do this people in Europe and the far East would soon become sick and spread the disease throughout their countries....there is no way to contain such a massive strike.  People would be getting on flights when in early stages etc.  

Also, as the US supports the world economy the entire planet would spiral into economic chaos...the ramifications of which would be devastating.

The terrorists would be destroying the entire planet effectively.

Reaction to this...

Personally I would go looking for Midnight Target and fight him for Claudia's affections.

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Offline FDisk

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2002, 02:37:16 PM »
From what I've read about bio-weapons it would be VERY difficult to spread it all over the US. because:

A. everyone would have to be able to catch it.
B. It would have to have a period in which it stays in the body and infects others.
C. It would constantly have to be chaging and evloving and conituning to be infectious.
D. you'd have to infect at least 50,000 people at various part of the country with out them knowing.
E. They'd have to be smarter than the CDC.
F. It would have to be transfered in a "multi platform" manner. (fluid exchange, sexually transmitted, fecial matter ect.)

Currently we as people do not have the technology to engineer such a virus. I have some stories but they're too long to type out. So, sleep well tonight and don't worry.

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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2002, 04:32:08 PM »
I could bring the U.S. and most of Europe and the Pacific rim down in a matter of months with less than a million bucks and no chem/nuke/bio weapons.

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2002, 04:40:11 PM »
I could get 10,000 other gigolos for that price, and I sincerly doubt your ability to pleasure that many "clients" in your life time, let alone a month.:eek:

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2002, 04:45:05 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Gadfly
I could bring the U.S. and most of Europe and the Pacific rim down in a matter of months with less than a million bucks and no chem/nuke/bio weapons.


How? Bring back Menudo?

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Offline Udie

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2002, 04:51:52 PM »
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Originally posted by Gadfly
I could bring the U.S. and most of Europe and the Pacific rim down in a matter of months with less than a million bucks and no chem/nuke/bio weapons.




 I don't have a million bucks :(  what could $100 get me?  A small train? :D

Offline Gadfly

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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2002, 05:06:26 PM »
100 bucks gets you the Dakotas.

Offline Wotan

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2002, 05:35:54 PM »
attacking individual population center will simply strengthen the will of any nation.

with a government as sophisticated as ours and the technology to maintain itself to the very end it would be a pointless excersize in attacking it through its military or directly.

However a sustained and escallating campaign of terror, well beyond what we have seen yet, will erode away the peoples confidence in the government. Once this happens then a break down of the Nation will be inevitable. The Nation will begin to "tribe up" along race, religion, ethnic back grounds  and geography. These groups will end up in open competion to fill the void and assume control. Balkanization......

We have one of the most non-homogenous societies in history. The things that keeps us glued together is our economy and the security our government gives us through its laws.

Destroy both then folks will look elsewhere then the kooks will come out of the wood work each with their promise of "rebuilding" the Nation.........ofcourse in their image.


Soon we will be 300 million in the US the question is how bad will it have to get?

Offline N1kPaz

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2002, 10:40:34 AM »
geez...i hope they miss the ohio valley!!!!! :eek:

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2002, 10:49:34 AM »
I agree.. attack the US directly and you 'wake the sleeping giant' as witnessed by recent events.

subtle indirect attacks on our society and commonality have been taking place for years.

In the end.. it depdends on what you mean by 'take out' the united states.

change yes, 'take out' no.

Offline milnko

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2002, 11:11:45 AM »
I think Charlie Daniels said it best:

In America

Well the eagle's been flyin' slow
And the flag's been flyin' low
And a lot of people sayin' that America's fixin' to fall

Well speakin' just for me
And some people from Tennessee
We've got a thing or two to tell you all

This lady may have stumbled
But she ain't never fell
And if the Russians don't believe that
They can all go straight to hell

We're gonna put her feet back on the path of righteousness and then...
God bless America again!

-CHORUS-
                                                  And you never did think
That it ever would happen again
 
You never did think
That we'd ever get together again
(We damn sure fooled you)

Yeah, we're walkng real proud
And we're talkin' real loud again (In America)

You never did think
That it ever would happen again

-END CHORUS-

From the Sound up in Long Island
Out to San Francisco Bay
And everthing that's in between them is our own

And we may have done a little bit of fightin' amongst ourselves
but you outside people best leave us alone
 
'Cause we'll all stick together
And you can take that to the bank
That's the cowboys and the hippies
And the rebels and the yanks
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You just go and lay your hand on a Pittsburgh Steelers' fan
and I think you're gonna finally understand

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Offline LtHans

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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2002, 03:00:37 AM »
Seems most of you've dodged the queston.  It's a hypothetical question....you can't think of what would happen?

1.  Europe returns as THE capitol of the world.  Probably with England in the leadership position.  A slow, inefficent bureucratic system with the European Union will hamper their ability to react fast and decisevly, though.

2.  China retakes Taiwan.

3.  Japan remilitarises, probably mostly defense forces though.  They've become too used to being non-violent to switch back to being Imperialistic.

4.  Japan and South Korea become the inventors off all the new research and development products.

5.  Canada becomes almost bound at the hip to the UK.

6.  South America goes thru a series of small, low tech wars that get rid of drug cartel powers who now have no money.

7.  Russia becomes the new working class producer of goods for the world.  Not inovative stuff, but lots of cheap products that sell well.

8.  The Middle East invades Israel and they respond by nuking the Muslims.  Israel ejects all Palestians from their borders.  The EU is not yet fast enough to enter the fray to halt any of this.  Israel eventually loses and the Muslims do NOT spare any lives and kill indiscriminately.  Not all Muslim nations join this union.  Those that don't prosper.  They might also war ammonst themselves.

9.  The EU tightens up and streamlines the inefficiencies of their militaries to each other out of neccessity.  Although never as fast to react (too many chiefs, not enough indians), the EU eventually fields as much power if not slightly more than the USA did.



In the end it is a four way toss up between these guys, probably in this order.

1.  The European Union (Con)Federation (loose unity = confederation, tight union = federation)

2.  Japan

3.  Russia

4.  China

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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2002, 03:25:53 AM »
I think Israel could win a war against Muslim nations.