Author Topic: Big Frame Rate Hit (Read 364 times)

Baine · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2002, 11:33:15 AM »

Accck! I hate people like that;)

AKWarp · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2002, 04:59:49 PM »

Well, count me in as one that lost frame rate. Used to run at 70-75 fps, but now it is down to 40-45!! Get more than 5-6 aircraft in the picture and it is so bad, I can't engage enemy without losing them to stuttering and warpiness.

Also, to those that say anything over 30 fps is a waste...it is not! You don't see it, that is true, but what that higher frame rate means is a larger margin for frame rate drop as the skies get crowded (the more objects in the scene, the lower your frame rate drops). So yes, the more fps, the better. If you start at 30 fps, as soon as you enter a furball, you are hitting teens or less in your fps....not good. with 75+ fps, it takes a lot of planes in the sky to crank it below 30.

Vruth · « **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2002, 07:54:22 PM »

I hate to say it, but if your playing with anything under a GeForce 3 and under 1000MHz CPU, your frame rate will not be the best.

Your best bang for the buck in frame rate is your video card (GPU upgrade). CPU's can add crunching power, but they don't draw the graphics any quicker.

I'm using a GeForce 2 Pro, Athlon 1GHz, and 512 PC133 Micron SDRAM. When it gets buzy at an airfield (lotsa smoke, planes, and explosions) my frame rates hit 10-20fps.

Lars · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2002, 02:25:25 PM »

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Originally posted by aknimitz
I honestly picked up about 10fps Lucky me!

Nim

I picked up a 15-20% better frame rate. Had to reformat both the AH partition as well as my Win98 boot boot partition. I wonder how old the OS load is on some of these peoples machines that are having problems...and how many times they changed Vid drivers w/o completely cleaning out the old one.

Doberman · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2002, 02:53:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Lars

I picked up a 15-20% better frame rate. Had to reformat both the AH partition as well as my Win98 boot boot partition. I wonder how old the OS load is on some of these peoples machines that are having problems...and how many times they changed Vid drivers w/o completely cleaning out the old one.

Mine is a month old load of Win XP with clean drivers. Athlon 1900+/MSI Pro 2 MB/512DDR/Radeon 8500.

Leph and some others have been putting forth solutions that they say are helping some guys. Seems to me that they're just getting these guys an extra 10-20 FPS that they shoulda already had.

My system is running at it's absolute top (un-overclocked) speed. Everything's tweaked. There's no more speed to be found hidden in driver updates or video settings. My 3D Mark 2000 & 2001 scores are right at the records for my CPU/Vid card combo.

In the 5 minutes it took me to download and install 1.09 I lost an average of around 25 FPS.

It doesn't kill me, because it's still playable due to the fact that my FPS were pretty outstanding to start with. But I'm never pleased with going backwards.

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Lars · « **Reply #20 on:** March 18, 2002, 04:24:47 PM »

Well jeez, my box must have just plain sucked for me to get almost a 20% boost in frame rates after the OS reload. Now I wish I didn't have to do the reload so I could see what all the squeaking is really about.

Time for that new RDRAM box I guess, hell, I just can't fly at 70fps anymore with this old PIII 800 and Gf3 Ti200

Actually, I do empathize with those that are having problems, nothing worse than having fun one day and the next to be barely able to play the game, but I've never been the one to sit and squeak w/o doing everything I can do to make my box work for AH.

Ossie · « **Reply #21 on:** March 18, 2002, 06:05:25 PM »

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It doesn't kill me, because it's still playable due to the fact that my FPS were pretty outstanding to start with. But I'm never pleased with going backwards.

I'm not sure if I follow. I understand displeasure in the face of fewer fps but, all optimizations aside, as time goes on and they keep stuffing more things into the game, wouldn't it make sense that your system will be less able to handle the load, not the other way around?
My "completely baseless and without any actual knowledge of how things work" guess is that the hit people are taking is primarily from the Voice integration. I would put money on a related optimization patch coming out, but again, just a guess

ergRTC · « **Reply #22 on:** March 18, 2002, 07:14:58 PM »

System\
Athlon XP 1.5 (1800+)
Gigabit motherboard
256 corsair pc2100 ram
MSI GeForce3 Ti 200 with 64 DDR
WinXP
C-Media sound card I pulled out of some garbagecan
1076X768 32 bit
Dx version 8.1
hp 21in.
23.11 det drivers.

100fps before 100fps after (no matter where I am looking, up-down-tower-at the six of a meaty 109e).

If in fact it is the ahvoice, I would be darn sure your sound drivers are 'really' the ones for your card. I remember when I first started playing, I would warp and get really bad frame rates all the time. Know how I figured it out? Flak. Everytime I would hear the flak explosion I would warp and my frame rates would fall through the floor. They may have made some small sound change that took advantage of things in d8 or who knows that was very sensitive to bad sound card drivers.

-ammo- · « **Reply #23 on:** March 18, 2002, 08:44:34 PM »

I am running a palomino 1600, 512 mb PC2100, win2K, and an original geforce 3, and I havent lost anything. I stay right at 75 FPS limited by my refresh rate. In a congested area, I get in the 40's (smoky field, vulchfest:), big furball).

Hajo you got more vid card, I got more memory. I am not using a PCI sound card, and i do not run anything in the background, other than MB monitor and occasionally RW. I would think that we would get similar FR's.

Phantom4 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 19, 2002, 11:02:33 AM »

at work:

AMD Athlon 1.1GHz 133MHz FSB
Gigabyte GA-7ZX rev 5.1
512MB sdram PC133
ac97 on board audio
Stb4400 - tnt 2 pro
3Com 905B NIC connected to T1
Maxtor 40GB 7200rpm drive ATA-133
WinXP Pro.

1024x768 - 32 bit res
Normal fight 10 to 15 planes - average 40fps
intense fight 30+ - average - 20fps can be 10's in smoke

At home:

AMD Athlon 1.2GHz 266MHz FSB
FIC AD11
256MB DDR 2100
ac97 on board audio
TI200
3Com 905B NIC (connected to an ADSL connection)
Maxtor 30GB 7200rpm drive ATA-133
WinXP Pro.

1024x768 - 32 bit res
Normal fight 10 to 15 planes - average 75fps (refresh rate)
intense fight 30+ - average - 40-45fps can be 20's in smoke

with 1.09

frame rates are up about 2 fps at work on TNT2
frames are unchanged at home

have been unaffected by AHV

but would like to see an option to disable