Assist my *ss! :mad:

[freeze]

Hey Fariz i bet u was a "all guns spraying newbie" too :-)

greets

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying


The late 190 really helped.  I didn't want to rev on a Zeke that was, by my view, 800 yards back.  There was no way a Spit V was going to cut off enough angles against a reasonable Zeke pilot when reversing at that range.  My plan was to extend to about 1.4k out and then rev back to you, but the incredibly aggressive 190 forced me to turn back.  Not much I could do at that point... out of angles and out of speed from having to turn it.  C'est la vie.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

Yeah, I saw you turn back towards the field. I wasn't surprised to see you suddenly pull into that near-vertical turn, I've seen you pull that maneuver several times, and it works against everything but a Zeke. So, seeing you go vertical, naturally I went vertical too. But, once you pulled into the high turn, there wasn't much you could do but hope that I didn't see you, or miss the deflection shot if I did. Of course, I didn't know it was you at the time. However, since Nath had been there, I figured you weren't far away.

That field was pure mayhem. I think we had four or five planes up, and there were at least a dozen enemy fighters. That I managed to even get airborne is testimony to the GVs protecting the field. I was eventually nibbled down to a flying wreck, although I managed to get another two. So, I bailed and upped another Zeke. Joined by Mathman, we managed to clear the field of Bish with the help of a few others, who's names I didn't get. Great fight. It's always a fun challange to meet you and Nath in the MA.

See you up there.

My best,

Widewing

[Am0n]

Originaly posted buy eskimo
Sure, I get mad for about 5 seconds after I get an assist when I thought it should have been a kill. But I get a lot of freebies too.
Many times I have done a lot of damage to an enemy plane from my slow A6M or 109F, and they are getting away. Someone else finishes them off and I get the kill. Without their help, I would have gotten squat. "

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Well said eskimo, exactaly the way i feal.

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This "feature" works both ways, sometimes you ping a guy one time and someone blows buy and waste him, and you get the kill.. Its not like someone stacked the deck against you, it should happen both ways an equal number of times, unless you fly a plane that has sissy guns then you may be the "victim" more times than not.


Being a dedicated jug driver i have to say this isnt a real common problem for me, theres normaly not much left to shoot at when im done ripping them apart with my 8 x 50's.. (it doesnt hurt to put a little extra icing on the cake either, if ya know what i mean )

[popeye]

Forget score.  Forget perks.  You'll have more fun.

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by Widewing


Heh, got them both again tonight. I must be livin' right. To be fair, Nath's P-38 was out of gas. However, he was still out-turning just about everyone deadstick! It was like watching the great Bob Hoover do his engines-off aerobatic display. Nath is a character. Despite having two dead engines, he's still trying to kill everything in sight. Give him an A for effort, at least. But, when his E was gone.. Well, I wasn't going to let him ditch.

My regards,

Widewing

I saw Sabre get 4 kills deadstick!

He ran out of gas at about 15k, I think (it was a long time ago).
He was greatly outnumbered and fought as a glider all the way to the deck, killing 4 bandits on the way!
(I was on the phone with him at the time and was rushing to his aid.)

eskimo

[eskimo2]

OK, here is a partial solution:

/.assist

This command would be used when you wish to trade your awarded kill for an assist when you feel that a countryman is more deserving of the kill.  It could only be implemented after you are awarded a kill, and the kill would automatically be awarded to the pilot who inflicted the next greatest amount of damage to the enemy plane.  If you were mistaken and the enemy received no damage from another plane, nothing happens.  Your rational could be whatever you wish for passing on the credit of the kill.

Another command could be:

/.killcredit (callsign)

This would be used when you wish to pass credit on to a countryman who probably didn't actually get hits on the enemy plane, but for whatever reason you feel, greatly contributed to kill.  I.E. distracts an Ostwind's fire while you kill him.  Perhaps this command would award ½ of the kill.

It would do nothing to prevent kill-stealing, but would still be a useful and realistic feature.
(Even a dweeb like me would use them.)

eskimo

[Yeager]

This aspect of AH is fine just the way it is.

[Don]

So far this camp I have over 50 assists, thats more than I have ever gotten in any camp in AH. I don't do anything differently than the other camps I've flown in. I get in close and shoot; if the nme turns away I keep going but, I know he's smok,ing. Another guy comes in and shoots him from farther away and he gets the kill. But then again, this camp I have dumped more than any other time in AH, and I have seen more warps than any other time in AH. For my money, where theres smoke there is fire; just have to look for it, instead of pooh pooing what some guy says may be a problem.

[batdog]

I like it the way it is. There is NOTHING more annoying than wearing down A niki or whatever... slowly getting into a kill postion after pinging him good a couple and then some nimrod decides to "swoop" in for the kill.


xBAT

[eskimo2]

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eskimo