Author Topic: "Tower, need immediate clearance for landing...." (Read 499 times)

Ripsnort · « **on:** March 21, 2002, 10:08:14 AM »

Seen these?

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Collision 2
Collision 3
Collision 4

midnight Target · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2002, 10:20:13 AM »

Reminds me of this One Wing Landing

Hortlund · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2002, 10:33:51 AM »

So what happened to it?

And why on earth did he drop his arrestor hook before landing?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2002, 10:39:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
So what happened to it?

And why on earth did he drop his arrestor hook before landing?

I'm guessing it collided with the plane in the Collision #4 pic. I'm also guessing that the arrestor hook deployment was probably not by choice, but by damage possibly caused by hydraulic failure.

scooby · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2002, 10:43:03 AM »

or he was using his arrestor hook as an emergency hook to stop quickly like most fighters will do.....

thats why F16's and F15's have then even tho they are not navy..

Ripsnort · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2002, 10:46:58 AM »

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Originally posted by scooby
or he was using his arrestor hook as an emergency hook to stop quickly like most fighters will do.....

thats why F16's and F15's have then even tho they are not navy..

Err..unless there's an arrestor wire, the hook doesn't do much, does it?

Oh, and F15's don't have arrestor hooks, F14's do though.

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2002, 10:47:12 AM »

In picture 4 you can see the arresting cable. IMO it looks like they were praticing carrier landings and had a slight collision. Looks like everyone came out of it OK tho (thank God)

midnight Target · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2002, 11:19:40 AM »

Some F-15's do have hooks.

"The most outstanding Eagle save was by a pilot from a foreign air force. During air combat training his two seater F-15 was involved in a mid air collision with an A-4 Skyhawk. The A-4 crashed, and the Eagle lost it's right wing from about 2ft. outboard. After some confusion between the instructor who said eject, and the student who outranked his instructor and said no, the F-15 was landed at it's desert base. Touching down at 290 Kts., the hook was dropped for an approach and engagement. This slowed the F-15 to 100 Kts, when the hook weak link sheared, and the aircraft was then braked conventionally. It is said that the student was later demoted for disobeying his instructor, then promoted for saving the aircraft.

McDonnell Douglas attributes the saving of this aircraft to the amount of lift generated by the engine intake/body and "a hell of a good pilot".

Ripsnort · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2002, 11:28:42 AM »

Thats just text to me..provide a link. I'll bet they confused the F14 with the F15..again

...I'll check with our engineers in St.Louis, they make the F15. They should know.

Smut, chime in here anytime if your viewing this thread, you researched them quite a bit for your simulation..

indian · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2002, 11:49:22 AM »

The F15 has had a one wing landing twice in Isreal. One was hit by a F16 on take off while the F15 was flying over that base. It made an emergency landing the F16 had to bail. The other. dont know the details but was hit by a plane during traing exercise. I think Airforce bases have a wire on the end of the runway for emergencies like this. Saw a F15 use one at Langley once.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2002, 11:54:13 AM »

Air Force bases do have arresting wires. I've seen F-111's take them on numerous occasions. I'm suprised the F-18 has it down though... since the arrestor hook is usually for "rolling would be very bad" types of landings (such as gear malfunctions).

AKDejaVu

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2002, 11:55:44 AM »

BTW.. you might want to take a look at the first pic Rip linked. See the arrestor hook? See the cable?

midnight Target · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2002, 11:56:30 AM »

Rip, read my 1st post, the link is there.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2002, 12:20:07 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Reminds me of this One Wing Landing

Rgr, thks, learn something new every day! Now I'm trying to figure why you'd need an arrestor hook on an F15, its land-based (and the arrestor wires at land-based runways are for Navy practice!)

scooby · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2002, 12:21:54 PM »

umm yes i knok my fighters, and most American military Air force fighters have arrestor hooks to stop them quickly in an emergency.....i kno very well that they have em....i've SEEN them....i even inquiered WHY they were there to an F-15 pilot atr an air show...