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Offline Kratzer

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Dad takes blockbuster to video store...
« on: March 21, 2002, 05:25:08 PM »
Anyone see this?

The link at the bottom of this article has a better description of the event.

http://www.newschannel2000.com/orl/news/crimeandjustice/stories/crimeandjustice-131534120020321-080350.html

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2002, 05:36:30 PM »
I find it hard to celebrate in the death of someone... even in this situation.

I commend the dad for what he did.  I firmly believe he did the right thing.

I'm amazed by other aspects of the story.  It seems there was no desire to even investigate pressing charges against the father.  One of the robbers was an employee of the Blockbuster being robbed.  The DA had the balls to press murder charges against the other robber (robbery resulting in a death... I learned all about it in 21 jump street).

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2002, 05:39:05 PM »
It's definitely nothing to celebrate, but maybe it will give other boneheads some pause to think about it before committing a crime. (It won't of course, but oh well)

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2002, 05:49:53 PM »
Two words: Bernard Goetz

Two more words: Civil Action

Two more words: Wrongful death

Last two: Garnish Wages



thank you for your time.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2002, 06:11:10 PM »
WTG Dad!  And a .45 too... wonder if it's a 1911-A1 or 1991-A1 :D

Wrongful death?  For what?  The guys walk in brandishing a weapon and threating people.  

From one of those articles:  "Officials believe Shockey had a permit to carry the weapon and said the shooting was justified."

There was no wrongful death here.  The shooting was a deliberate action in response to an actual threat.  Take into a civil court and the official statement from the cops that it was a justified shooting blows the whole case from the start.

Now.. if dad were charged with manslaughter or murder2 or something like that, then yeah, wrongful death could come into play.  Or if dad had tagged any innocent bystanders (which would probably have brought charges against him anyway).

The loss of/taking of a life isn't trivial, but I'm glad dad had the gumption to do what he did.  Hopefully he'll have the wherewithall to carry the burden he just shouldered.

I'm curious to see what the anti-gun media is going to do with this one.  For all anyone knows dad may have saved several lives.

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2002, 06:41:28 PM »
Good shot.  Too bad he didn't finish off the other salamander.

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2002, 06:52:07 PM »
This is the best argument EVER for handgun control. One young man is dead, another will have his life altered forever due to the convoluted Florida justice system, and a 50 year old cracker from Florida will be hailed as a hero for shooting two people, one of them unarmed, with his .45.

Welp, git on up thar, yew little doggies of Southern justice. I guess yew skooled dem lousy nig...er...er...dem lousy Negros what Southern Justice is all about. Dance around on this post, hi-five each other and somehow feel empowered because some amazinhunk offed two punks armed with ONE rifle. I hope the dumb bellybutton cracker loses his mobile home AND his gun in civil court.

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2002, 06:55:55 PM »
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Originally posted by AKWabbit
Good shot.  Too bad he didn't finish off the other salamander.


i agree

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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2002, 07:02:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
This is the best argument EVER for handgun control. One young man is dead, another will have his life altered forever due to the convoluted Florida justice system, and a 50 year old cracker from Florida will be hailed as a hero for shooting two people, one of them unarmed, with his .45.

Welp, git on up thar, yew little doggies of Southern justice. I guess yew skooled dem lousy nig...er...er...dem lousy Negros what Southern Justice is all about. Dance around on this post, hi-five each other and somehow feel empowered because some amazinhunk offed two punks armed with ONE rifle. I hope the dumb bellybutton cracker loses his mobile home AND his gun in civil court.


Of course if the guy had been unarmed and the thugs had killed him I guess it would just be a case of "wrong place, wrong time? " :rolleyes: I'm sorry, but if you're willing to use a firearm to commit a crime, you had better be prepared to be met with equal force. If I have to choose between mine and my son's life and some scum sucking maggot trying to rip off a freakin video store, I just pray that I have enough restraint to not empty the magazine.

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2002, 07:09:55 PM »
One less POS.
**JOKER'S JOKERS**

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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2002, 07:29:40 PM »
femwolf, maybe you should explain the virtues of "handgun control" to the armed criminals, i'm sure you could convince them to give up their guns.

Fla law:
use a gun in a crime=10yrs
shoot the gun "=20yrs
if you hit someone when you shoot=25 to life (perk point, you could get death)

why do some people want to disarm honest law-abiding people and call criminals "victims"?

one of the "inalienable rights" refered to in the constitution is the right to self defense.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2002, 07:35:26 PM »
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femwolf, maybe you should explain the virtues of "handgun control" to the armed criminals, i'm sure you could convince them to give up their guns.


Or better yet... he can explain the virtues of having a discussion without namecalling in the very first sentence. :rolleyes:

And for that matter... self defense isn't mentioned in the Bill of Rights.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2002, 07:38:36 PM by Sandman »
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Seriously..LOL!

"One young man is dead"...reminds me of the British 18 year old who was recently shot and killed by a British Pensioner with his shotgun..the paper quoted him as "a lovable rogue".  This guy had over 35 convictions at 18, and several involving violence against police officers, yet the old guy gets into a scrap with him AND another robber in HIS diddlying house, a fight for his life, and is now being charged with murder.  What idiocy.

If this father had put two into the back of the wounded guy's head when he was down even, who could blame him.  The guy went for the first guy's gun.  One last piece of crap criminal on the streets.  It seems he followed the rules of engagement for CCW, and didn't go that far, but what sane person could blame him if he had.

The funny thing is, if a uniformed police officer with no relations inside the store had done exactly the same thing, we wouldn't even be talking about it, and it MAY have made page 10 news.  The "issue" is average joe's rights to defend himself and others just like the cops.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2002, 08:24:04 PM »
Read the article. These perps had robbed the same store without loss of life in the past and this cracker sets up an ambush in order to kill them should they try again. He kills them, Jeb Bush says "cool, just quit filming my daughters having sex and doing drugs in public, and YES I'm glad we rigged the presidential election and allowed my retarded brother to be elected President, because after all none of the mall shoe stores were hiring and there's really nothing else Junior  is qualified to do..."

And now all you Southern crackers are dancing around the May pole talking about how your NEW "political correctness" allows you to shoot African Americans again. John, SELF DEFENSE??? Give me a break. This is another lynching made possible by the post-911 political climate.

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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2002, 08:26:08 PM »
I'm literally on the floor laughing.  My god, where did that come from.

Some pent up anger over 2000 still?

BTW, I KNOW african americans with CCW permits and have used their carry guns for self defence.  Don't try to turn this into some bs liberal race issue when it isn't.

I have pals in my shooting club who are black and one is even x PPCLI, and they feel as strongly about this issue as anyone.

You are a racist in my book for even bringing that up.