60 perkies

[Steven]

<> -CavemanJ

The Spit14 is perked at 60 pts which is the same as the F4U-4.  (Humor me, I do not have a joystick at the moment and can't try this new Spit out offline to get a feel.)  Based on the similar perk amount between the 14 and the -4, would you say those planes are a close-match or at least a toss-up in which someone would choose to mount up in?

[pimpjoe]

Originally posted by AKSWulfe
The Spit14 is nothing like some are imagining. The fact that it is very unstable in the lateral makes it very anti-newbie.

I'd be more worried about La7s than Spit14s.
-SW

i gotta go with SmellWulfe on this one. i flew it as soon as it was released. nothing special. as a matter of fact i'd rather fly a spit9 than a 14. personally i think it sucks. drop the perks on it down to about the Chog. this thing is nothing to be afraid of. from all the things i've heard about hte real one tho it was a monster. is it nerfed for game play?

[AKSWulfe]

Close LimpJoe, it's actually the model of the 14 they used.. It's got the smaller vert stab and is using the Griffon 60 series engine if I'm not mistaken.

If it's a production form of the XIV, it should have a Griffon 65 engine, five-bladed prop (got that), lengthened nose and larger radiators and vertical stabilizer. It doesn't have the larger vertical stab, so me thinks it's not the production form XIV. Supposedly the XIV with the larger vert stab is a FR XIV, or it was atleast adopted with this type.

Some XIVs also came with bubble canopies and larger vertical stabs, these things would be real monsters... which is why I don't understand this model of the XIV being perked.... at this price anyway.

Should be cheaper, but that's just IMO.
-SW
BTW: SmellWulfe... LOL!

[Guppy35]

Just to clarify.  The low back, bubble top XIVE was the same kite as the high back XIVE.  Only the very early XIVs has C wings, the rest had the E wing.

There was no difference in performance between the two, only the increased visibilty along with most of the low back XIVEs having a camera port behind the cockpit.  Most also had clipped wings.

The tail surfaces on both were the same.

Ginger Lacy, of Battle of Britain fame, was commanding 17 Squadron in the Far East when the XIV came to that theatre.  He refused the low back XIVs because "they didn't look like real Spitfires".  Another squadron gladly gave up their Hurricane IIs for them, while 17 waited for the right number of high back XIVs to be delivered.

As for production numbers.  650-700 190D9s produced and introduced to combat later then the Spit XIV of with there were 957 produced.  The notion of 'rarity' doesn't seem to hold based on that.

Dan

[Karnak]

The razor backs were actually the more stable 14s.  Tails are the same.

[fdiron]

I blasted a spit14 apart with my F4U1c tonight...felt great.

[Octavius]

The first Spit14 I saw in the MA  tonight... I blasted its nice, flaming carcass til it 'sploded.  The second Spit14 I saw, I again blasted into the ground (but this time I was in a M8 Greyhound and Lazerr was the pilot).  This was very rewarding

[AKEagle+]

HT and Pyro have both said that whether or not a kite is perked as absolutely nothing to do with production numbers, when it entered service, or if it saw combat. The perk system is merely a way of controlling planes that can/will unbalance the arena. I wish everyone would quit harpin on rarity and numbers and dates about perk planes!

Absolutely right.

Perking is about producing a plane and then making sure no one flies it.

60 points? 60????  for that piece of whatever that won't outfly a LA7?

Instead of producing planes that no one can afford HT should spend time getting the kinks out of the server software. [like that wild crash tonight] Or something productive that will benefit most of us.

The present perking system sux. Some poor sot paid 200 pts for a 262 only to have me HO it with my NIK tonight .  Not sure how long he took to collect 200 perks, but they were gone in about 3 seconds.  I felt sorry for him, but given the opportunity I would HO him again, War is hell.

Perking IF we have to have it as HT insists, should be Dynamic, and based on plane use.  The more a plane is used, the more it costs.  This should ensure homogenous use of the planeset, and keep the newbie rif raf out of the NIKs and Spits (and out of the whole arena too for that matter).  This should force the whiners to whine more about HOs and gang bangs and vulching, and the newbies to leave.

Yep that is where HT should spend their time... producing planes no one can afford to fly, rather than debug that kee rap AH voice.  Maybe then the rif raf will go to a game where they can fly what they want to?

AKEagle+

[Pongo]

what alot of drivel.
Your the same weany that would wine if the plane was  unperked.
People whine they dont want the late war planes, then whine that they cant fly them enough, then whine that the other guy can, then whine that they are not tough enough.
lol
Give you a P40 that you could afford and you would whine its not tough enough.
HT adds the spit 1, 109e, hurri 1, and 110c. All cheap enough for you to fly till the end of time and you complain about him adding one plane that is of interest to the comunity but too good to go unperked.
You are a clown.

[MadBirdCZ]

If you substitute your lack of flying skill by whining about expensive rides you should better start thinking about yourselves and cease flying those N1Ks, Spit 9s, La7s and other low cost low skill planes and you should really start to learn to fly. Then not only you gona have such a number of perks you wont know what to do with them but it will make a better pilots of you too...

It costs 60 perks ant its ok! Tempest costs 70 perks is someone squeaking about it?

[bikekil]

well said Pongo

[Karnak]

Tempest costs 70 perks is someone squeaking about it?

Yes.

I am "squeaking" about the price of all perk planes, except the F4U-1C.  As is Citabria, Urchin, ect, ect.

My skills are OK, I spend most of my time in Mossies.  But I am not good enough to land 20 perk sorties very often.

[MadBirdCZ]

Originally posted by Karnak

Bring the B-29A Superfortress to Aces High!!!

Well IF B-29 is introduced sometimes in distant future, how many perks will it cost? My bet is somewhere about 200 so I can already hear the whine now... Maybe its off topic and off this thread but seems like lots of people in AH want HTC to include latewar and 'uber' planes to the planeset but when HTC hears their prayers and actually adds the planes then what well they get? A constatnt wave ov whining? Oh man... Im prolly just too old for this...

[Karnak]

MadBirdCZ,

I put that in my sig because I had my Mossie, and had long since abandoned the Spit14 request.

I was simply letting my mind wander one day, and I thought it would be real neat to fly from inside that big 'ol fishbowl on the B-29's nose.

Presto, its in my sig.  Just because I want to fly from a fishbowl.

(And yes, I would anticipate an extremely high perk value.  It would be the top end perk bomber)

[guttboy]

Ok I dont usually post in this forum but after reading the above here are my two cents....

If you dont like the perk system then dont fly the planes.

If you cant afford a perk plane then perhaps you havent flown enough to gain the perks to get one (or you are like me and a Rook and Rarely get resets...LOL).

I personally like the perk system and think it should stay as is!!!


PS....it is a pain when you lose one of those baby's.....oh well war is hell.