Icons on perk plane idea........

[Swoop]

At present, most perk planes advertise themselves to every enemy within 6,000 yards.  The only thing missing is a big flashing billboard saying "KILL ME".


How about.......


reducing that distance.  I'm not saying reduce icon range on perk planes.   What I suggest is for those planes that are merely upgrades on existing aircraft to display the icon of the aircraft type until you get close.


For example, a spit XIV would display SPIT until you get to say.....1.5k, then change to SPIT14.  I mean, a spit XIV looks like any other spitfire at long range.......but ya get closer and ya can tell.

262s and 234s are the exception.


Now what this would cause would be major use of local channel to tell everyone that the typh straffing the town at A10 is actually a Tempest, for example........and woe betide anyone else in a typhoon in the same area.  .  This would reduce the gang-banging of perk planes (giving the newbies who aint quite mastered flying to live a chance for some fun) and give us an extra aspect of air combat to worry about.  

Is the 190 overhead really a 190 or is it a 152 and we're in deep sh*t?


Again, just another idea......feel free to kick it around and call me stupid.

[LePaul]

Stupid...





But really, I think you are on the right track tho.

The F4U-4 should just show as any other F4, much as all the 190s say "190", etc.

Same with the SpitXIV, to Spit.

As for reduced icons for the jets, surely ye jest!  Those jets aren't in icon range long enough as it is when you ARE looking out for them!

[Swoop]

????

I didnt suggest reduced icons for jets.......


I suggest a DIFFERENT icon for perk planes that were developed from lesser aircraft until you get close when ya find out what it really is.......


Not a reduced icon range for jets.

[Kweassa]

Good idea, Swoop !

 Let's consider toning down a bit on the ID ranges.. say 1.0? This would effect a lot in the lethality and the survivability of perk planes.

 In the case of planes ID'd without any more specific variants, the 1.0 would be the ID point. Most perk planes will fall into this category, as well as some planes with variants that look drastically different from others(such as the 'long nosed Dora'):

ex)

 6.0 "SPIT"
 1.0 "SPIT14"

 6.0 "F4U"
 1.0 "F4U4"

 6.0 "TYPH"
 1.0 "TEMP"

 6.0 "190"
 1.0 "Ta152"

 6.0 "190"
 1.0 "190D9"

 In the case of planes ID'd with more specific variants(plus, a special type of perk plane such as the C-Hog), the 'get in close' will have some advantages:

 6.0 "190"
 1.0 "190"
 500 "190A5"
 
 6.0 "F4U"
 1.0 "F4U"
 500 "F4U1C"
 
 6.0 "SPIT"
 1.0 "SPIT"
 500 "SPIT5"


  This principle will apply same to GVs, except maybe GVs would need a real close look for verification on specific variants:

 1.5 "GV"
 1.0 "GV"
 200 "M16"

 1.5 "GV"
 1.0 "GV"
 200 "M3"

 1.5 "GV"
 1.0 "GV"
 200 "LVT2"

 Unique GVs will be identified from 1.0:

 1.5 "GV"
 1.0 "PZR"
 
 1.5 "GV"
 1.0 "FLAKPZR"
 
 1.5 "GV"
 1.0 "M8"

 ....

[minus]

get ride of icons  GV  vs plane and vice versa


please jsut dont say  you need them  for  closure  measure  efect

osti will be less efective


how about to get ride al ID icons ?????

only newbies need icon, and after 15 days of acount no more  ID icons

the first lo of WW2 air  combat  was to KNOW your enemy

in AH ,,if it pretend to be a sim ,, then simulate this litle detail

[LLv34_Camouflage]

Swoops idea is very good.

Originally posted by Swoop

At present, most perk planes advertise themselves to every enemy within 6,000 yards.  The only thing missing is a big flashing billboard saying "KILL ME".

How about.......

reducing that distance.  I'm not saying reduce icon range on perk planes.   What I suggest is for those planes that are merely upgrades on existing aircraft to display the icon of the aircraft type until you get close.

Why not reduce the icon range of perk vehicles/planes? I think that too would be worth a try. For example, the enemy wouldn't see the TA152 icon before 3k in the MA, 1k in CT with the reduced icons.

This would give an additional edge to the perk fliers and would encourage people to fly them more.

Some of you may think that this would give to the "already-better-than-average-perk-plane-fliers" an unfair advantage. But in my opinion, it would be fun to see what kind of new aspects it brings to the arenas.

Camo

[SKurj]

And when u see a small stutter as icon changes u will say what?


SKurj

just a worst case scenario +)

[lazs2]

Perk plane icons should be bright pink and have much longer ranges than the real arena planes.
lazs

[LLv34_Camouflage]

Originally posted by lazs2
Perk plane icons should be bright pink and have much longer ranges than the real arena planes.
lazs

Please explain, how would this enhance the overall gameplay in the arena?


"Real arena planes"?

Camo

[Doberman]

Originally posted by minus
get ride of icons  GV  vs plane and vice versa


please jsut dont say  you need them  for  closure  measure  efect

osti will be less efective


how about to get ride al ID icons ?????

only newbies need icon, and after 15 days of acount no more  ID icons

the first lo of WW2 air  combat  was to KNOW your enemy

in AH ,,if it pretend to be a sim ,, then simulate this litle detail

This kinda crap has been constantly discussed for YEARS in all of these online sims.

You ever flown a real plane there bub?  I doubt it.  

When a monitor can give me the plane information I can get with my eyes at realistic distances, I'll gladly get rid of icons.  Until then icons fill in for the limitations of a computer monitor.  

You don't need icons?  Alt-I turns 'em off.  Go to it.

D

[lazs2]

"Please explain, how would this enhance the overall gameplay in the arena?


"Real arena planes"?  

Camo"

simple... the less uber planes flying agianst mediocre (and worse) planes the better.   Perk planes need to be stigmatized, expensive and easily identified so that their cowardly pilots can be identified sooner and eaisier.   this would enhance gameplay for everyone else.

Having said that.... I flew a -1c for a tour this last time.   I flew it exactly like I flew my -1a.   interesting experiment.
lazs

[LLv34_Camouflage]

Originally posted by lazs2

simple... the less uber planes flying agianst mediocre (and worse) planes the better.  

I agree with that, to some extent.  But there are better ways to achieve this, than what you've suggested.  

The question was the effect on the *overall* MA gameplay. In my opinion, the late war emphasis of the MA is a much relevant issue than the perk planes. In general, perk planes have VERY little effect on the MA balance. Making the perk fliers' life harder leads to very little positive, imho.

Perk planes need to be stigmatized, expensive and easily identified so that their cowardly pilots can be identified sooner and eaisier.   this would enhance gameplay for everyone else.
[/B]

How many perk planes do you see during a regular night of AH? Do they have a significant effect on the gameplay in the MA? More so, do they have a *negative* effect on the gameplay in the MA?

A perk plane should be exactly that, a perk.  What you suggest, would lead to the "total annihilation" of perk planes in the MA. Only the most masochistic players would choose to fly a perk plane.

Please tell me again, how would this enhance the overall gameplay in the arena?

Camo

[LLv34_Camouflage]

Originally posted by lazs2


Having said that.... I flew a -1c for a tour this last time.   I flew it exactly like I flew my -1a.   interesting experiment.
lazs

What did you discover?

Camo