Oh, the horror of the younger generation and its understanding of history

[BenDover]

Originally posted by midnight Target

For an interesting and humorous aside, see 'The Right Stuff' by Tom Wolfe for the story of how 'Chuck' Yeager, the pilot who actually broke the sound barrier, had to contend with the legends established by this film.

hey, guess where most, if not all, the research to allow a controlled 'faster than sound' flight came from, well its not american, its british!

sometime near the end of the war, our 2 governments made an agreement to share research of jet technology, we Brits went through with it, we gave you all our research, but in return, you gave F**K ALL! saying it was a security risk.

Basicly you stole our research.

and the magical elevator(a small wing that went up and down) that Chuc himself says no one else knew about, and that Americans invented it is complete BS, it was invented by the British and first used on a spit in 1943, big time gap between 1943 and 1946 (I think thats right)

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by BenDover



hey, guess where most, if not all, the research to allow a controlled 'faster than sound' flight came from, well its not american, its british!

sometime near the end of the war, our 2 governments made an agreement to share research of jet technology, we Brits went through with it, we gave you all our research, but in return, you gave F**K ALL! saying it was a security risk.

Basicly you stole our research.

and the magical elevator(a small wing that went up and down) that Chuc himself says no one else knew about, and that Americans invented it is complete BS, it was invented by the British and first used on a spit in 1943, big time gap between 1943 and 1946 (I think thats right)

Tah-Gut was nice enough to supply us with a source. Any chance you guys have citation in the UK?

-Sikboy

[BenDover]

what kind of citation?

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by BenDover
what kind of citation?

Well a citation is a reference to a source (usually an expert in the field) who provides you with information. I'm assuming that you weren't part of both the British Supersonic Program, and the American one that stole all that information. Just curious.

-Sikboy

[Chanter]

"Oh, the horror of the younger generation and its understanding of history "

Had a classic example of this in the CT a few nights ago.  Very little history knowledge, preaching "facts" backed up by the ever popular "I'm a history major!" (love that line).

At the very least, I admired his passion for history.  Maybe that passion will one day lead to reading books and actually studying the subject.

[BenDover]

got any quotes or better yet, screen shots of what he was saying?


oh yeah sikboy, some old guy who worked on it, can't remember his name

[Hobodog]

Originally posted by Oldman731


...a lot of Southerners talk the same way about the Civil War.....

- oldman

We would have won the war had one or two things goen differently at Gettysburg. Not taken the north but secured our on freedom. Or if Early had hadnt run out of steam and had marched in the back door to D.C.(He was only 7  miles away.). Of course wouldve helped to have jmust half as many men.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by Hobodog
We would have won the war had one or two things goen differently at Gettysburg. Not taken the north but secured our on freedom. Or if Early had hadnt run out of steam and had marched in the back door to D.C.(He was only 7  miles away.). Of course wouldve helped to have jmust half as many men.

Heh heh.  Would have taken more than one or two things to win at Gettysburg.  And even then, I'm not certain that the union would have simply gasped and said "OK, OK, you win, you win, just please leave us alone!"

- oldman

[midnight Target]

Not trying to take anything away from English engineers Ben, just pointing out inaccuracies in a movie.

In the movie the guy playing Dehaviland (sp?) finally figures out the secret to supersonic flight is to "Reverse the stick". Chuck Yeager while on a press tour of England was actually asked whether he "reversed the stick". He said no, and explained how this was more like suicide than anything else. People were incredulous and many seemed to feel he was lying.

[BenDover]

it wasn't a movie, never a heard "Reverse the stick",
and as i said it was to do with the the moving horizontal stab (the whole rear wing as he called it, moved), which stopped the controls jamming up


btw, i never believe ANYTHING in movies, movies are primarly roadkill to entertain those not interested in facts (those that are based on facts)

back to the point, this wasn't a movie, it was an interview, i wish i could remember the name of the guy or the plane even (which was scrapped after the US didn't give us any research)

[midnight Target]

I have that - "Entered a whole different dimension" - feeling.

Weren't we talking about inaccurate movies?

[BenDover]

but its ok, cos we do it in style:D

[BenDover]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I have that - "Entered a whole different dimension" - feeling.

Weren't we talking about inaccurate movies?

no, we were talking about youths not knowing the correct bits of history

[vorticon]

WOW this post is STILL around...that is a quote from my junior member days...man thats old...but ill show you ill show you all

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by BenDover



no, we were talking about youths not knowing the correct bits of history

Target was talking about a movie, as an aside. You were saying something nationalistic about something. Coulda Shoulda Woulda I think is how it went.

-Sikboy