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Offline Beefcake

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Which would survive and be used more in the MA: B25 or the He-111
« on: April 03, 2002, 02:04:51 PM »
This is just a whine about all those people who want other countries to have planes when we all know that they will most likely suck-didly-uck. BRING MORE AMURICAN PLANES INTO AH!!!  

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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2002, 02:24:14 PM »
B25.

The -111 would be nice for one thing, BoB.  Thats it! :)
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2002, 02:30:30 PM »
He111 would also be useful for eastern front scenarios.

For being useful in the MA a bomber must be defendable or fast.  He111 is neither.

B-25 is somewhat defendable, but still not fast.

Tu-2S is fast, and has a very limited ability to defend itself.

I would like the next bomber to be the Tu-2S.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2002, 06:39:39 PM »
TU-2 for me no nead for a B-25 at present imo.
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2002, 07:00:29 PM »
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TU-2 for me no nead for a B-25 at present imo.


I disagree, the B-25 with the 75mm nose cannon would be great for anti-GV ops :D

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Offline Jester

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2002, 02:43:59 AM »
B-25 hands down.
Nothing the HE-111 can do that the JU-88 can't.

BTY Folks, there is another arena besides the MA. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2002, 06:27:21 AM »
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Nothing the HE-111 can do that the JU-88 can't.


Umm... He-111 can carry V-1s ;)
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2002, 09:06:28 AM »
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He111 would also be useful for eastern front scenarios.

For being useful in the MA a bomber must be defendable or fast.  He111 is neither.

B-25 is somewhat defendable, but still not fast.

Tu-2S is fast, and has a very limited ability to defend itself.

I would like the next bomber to be the Tu-2S.


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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2002, 09:15:14 AM »
B25, B25, B25 and B25. If a bomber is added to LW (and it's twin engined or more) it should be something heavier and/or faster. Ju188, He177, Ju388 :D
The HE11 would only be good for scenarios, it was a much worse bomber then the Ju88, slower and less manuevarable and almost the same load.

The B25 with the 75mm shouldn't (although in AH it would) be a good GV killer unless the GV's were soft (M3's and M16 etc). It had a low velocity gun, not the high velocity anti tank guns some planes (Hs129 comes to mind) used.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2002, 09:37:37 AM »
I'd want both!!!
He 111 was made in many variants throughout the war, even with floats and as a "double"!!
Although slower than the Ju88, it had had its good sides, such as a very flexible bomb-bay. It could carry hundreds of little bomblets, or up to 8 1000 lbs bombs on short missions.
There is no proper eastern front or BoB without the 111
Apart from that, it is a very beautiful plane.
Now the B25 is a must-have. Slower than the B26, it was more nimble and versatile. Just a question when...
But for those who want a monster-cannon equipped plane, it's probably easiest to feature the tse-tse, which is a Mosquito with a 57mm anti-shipping cannon in the nose, 4x.303 for other (ping*) purposes, and bombs or rockets under the wings...yeahh.
With that one you could maybe nail the acks while they are outta range,,,:D
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2002, 05:58:14 PM »
I want both also!!!!! But,as a starter, I'd like the Hornisse cause I've never flown it.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2002, 07:23:19 PM »
Quote: I disagree, the B-25 with the 75mm nose cannon would be great for anti-GV ops

Maybe, maybe, unless it was an osty your going in on, One hit and bye bye wing before you get in gun s range.:(

Perk the osty!
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Offline Beefcake

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2002, 09:26:41 PM »
Wasn't the B25H the one with the 75mm? Does anyone know the load out for it? If I remember correcty the H had 4x20mms and the 75mm in the nose plus it had all the rear guns (Top turret, tail and waist) Plus it could carry bombs. AM I correct on this or do I have several 25 models mixed up?

On another note, I would also like the see the B25J special Model. The one that had 12x50 cals in the nose.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2002, 04:56:51 AM »
Pe-2 is quite fast and with defensive guns rear and below. IMO harder to kill than b17 and b24 together.  Atleast in russian WB FH:)
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2002, 05:43:54 AM »
How about Russian TB-3 ? :rolleyes:
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