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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2002, 09:22:05 PM »
thank you streak. do you wanna see what i would do to F6F'S. MUAHAHAHAHA

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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2002, 09:40:29 PM »
No Viper! No!... P-40s shoot Japanese aircraft not F6Fs!

Save all that rage for Zekes, Tonys, and Georges until the Oscars show up.
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2002, 09:46:21 PM »
oh yea i forgot. was still in my aces mode i need to find a pic of a burning Zero. but i hate those F6's in the ma those .50's hurt

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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2002, 10:44:41 PM »
That F6F brings Cavalear to mind for some reason .... :D
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2002, 10:52:17 PM »
that pic is of me crashing my F6F in order to take the P-40:D :D When i get more money im gona make a p-40 squadren:cool: Those Jap planes are gonna fry:D :D :D :D

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« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2002, 07:00:26 PM »
Keep this thred alive PLEASE:D

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« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2002, 10:58:41 PM »
Maybe 1.09 is taking so long to be released because as a big surprise, every variant/paint scheme of P-40 ever requested is coming out with this release :D
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« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2002, 12:02:47 AM »
:D

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« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2002, 01:48:01 AM »
While it looks really mean, I prefer the sleeker B/C nose.
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« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2002, 05:32:53 AM »
Do we get to have these too? :D

 

 
 
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« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2002, 06:48:00 AM »
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Originally posted by john9001
the RAF africa were the first to use the "sharks teeth" paint.
i vote for RAF north africa

the AVG P40's were speical built ,cause all the reg production p40's were going to england, the AVG engines were built from out of spec parts that were hand finished so they ended up with "blueprinted" engines that put out more power than std production engines.

only 100 AVG P40's were built


Britain's order came under the Lend-Lease agreement.

Of an original order for 471 Tomahawk IIB fighters, AK100 - AK500.  Of these 21 were lost at sea en route to Britain.  Of the remaining Tomahawks "125 were shipped to Russia and 9 transferred to the RCAF and one to the Turkish Air Force.  36 were diverted to China for use by the 'Flying Tigers'.  Britain released a total of 100 Tomahawks to the AVG which adopted the famous shark's teeth nose emblem originating with the RAF which used the markings on its Tomahawks in North Africa during 1940."

Tomahawk/Kittyhawk Models

Tomahawk (Model 81)  A total of 1180 delivered under British direct-purchase contracts.  In addition, the RAF took over ten P40C fighters from the USAAC.  The RAF operated them as Tomahawks of an unspecified mark and without RAF serial numbers.

Tomahawk I (Model H81-A)  A total of 140 equivalents to the USAAC P40, except for four wing guns, were ordered on two contracts with deliveries commencing in April 1940.  It was decided that these were unsuitable for combat use and they were relegated to training roles.

Tomahawk II  Designation not used officially for specific aircraft, but was a generalisation for improved Tomahawks delivered during October and November 1940.

Tomahawk IIA (Model H81-A2)  Protective armour and externally-covered self-sealing fuel tanks on 110 aircraft equivalent to the P40B.  23 transferred to the USSR and one to Canada as an instructional airframe.

Tomahawk IIB (Model H-81-A2, A3)  A total of 930 in four lots.  These were generally equivalent to the P40C and were used extensively by the RAF and SAAF in North Africa as from 16 June 1941. Of these, 100 fighters unofficially designated H81-A3 were released to China and used by the AVG.  A further 23 went to the USSR, and unspecified numbers went to Turkey and Egypt.

Kittyhawk  The French contract for Curtiss Model 87s was taken over by Britain prior to construction commencing.  The airframe and engine changes justified the new name - Kittyhawk.  A total of 560 was procured on direct-purchase contracts and a further 2432 were supplied by the Lend-Lease programme, bringing the total to 2992.

Kittyhawk I (Model A87-A2)  Fitted with four .50 cal wing guns, the 560 fighters were comparable to the P40D.  The UK took over the initial French order and deliveries commenced in August 1941, with 72 diverted to Canada, and 17 to Turkey.

Kittyhawk IA (Model H87-A3, A4)  The 1500 fighters were direct equivalents of the P40E and were delivered under the USAAC designation P40-1 to distinguish the British equipment etc. from those for US service.  Many were diverted to Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

Kittyhawk II (Model H87-B3)  WW2 British sources identify the 330 RAF P40Fs and P40Ls as Kittyhawk IIs; later records list the first 230 as Kittyhawk IIAs.  81 were transferred to the USAAC overseas and 7 were given to the Free French Air Force.  RNZAF had one.

Kittyhawk III  Of the 616 Kittyhawk IIIs, the first 192 were P40K-1s, the next 160 were P40Ls, and the final 264 were P40Ms.  The last 170 were diverted to the USSR.  9 P40K-1s were delivered to the RCAF on 26 Nov 1942 retaining their US serials.

Kittyhawk IV (Model H87V, W)  The final 586 Kittyhawks were USAAC P40Ns delivered from Mar 1943 - Jan 1944 of which 130 were diverted to the USSR.  The type was used by the RAAF, RNZAF and the RCAF.

(When Curtiss introduced the P40F powered by the Rolls Royce Merlin engine, the new name Warhawk was applied to distinguish it from the Allison-engined P40D and P40E.  This name was not adopted by the RAF for the re-engined model, and the name Kittyhawk was retained for both versions of the Model 87).  [/i]

Although the P40 was used by many nations during WW2, the UK was the only purchaser of the type other than the USAAC.  Many RAF models were released for use by other Allied air forces (for free??).

Taken from 'Lend-Lease Aircraft in World War II' - Arthur Pearcy

Hmm... hope some of you found the above information interesting!  :)

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PS  I would love to see an AVG P40, and either RAF/RCAF/RAAF/SAAF P40 in North Africa colours.
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« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2002, 11:32:12 AM »
Take your pick.
 Note the difference in Shark mouth designs.

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« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2002, 12:45:08 PM »
Replicant said:

Tomahawk IIB (Model H-81-A2, A3) A total of 930 in four lots. These were generally equivalent to the P40C and were used extensively by the RAF and SAAF in North Africa as from 16 June 1941. Of these, 100 fighters unofficially designated H81-A3 were released to China and used by the AVG.  A further 23 went to the USSR, and unspecified numbers went to Turkey and Egypt.
Taken from 'Lend-Lease Aircraft in World War II' - Arthur Pearcy

End Quote.

From what I have been told by the people who flew them, the AVG P-40's had NUMBERS from that production series, but that the airframes and engines were not built to standard. The AVG birds had more power, lighter weight and the radio sets were not mill spec. (I think on the last)
The true model is H81A-2, not H81-A3.

Engine

These engines were built to Allison Specifications 145A, rather than Spec 120D and identified as the V-1710-C15A. There were no military designation for these engines.

It is estimated that in the heat of the battle or disengaging from enemy fighters, some engines had drawn between 1600 and 1700 Horse power. (This would give a power to weight ration of better than even the vaunted Zero had.)

At one time on a photo recon flight, while circling my objective, apparently I had run into my own prop wash, but at the moment thought it was A A fire. I pushed the throttle forward but when I settled down I saw that I pulling 50 in Hg, and quickly reduced it to 40 inches. According to the Horse power chart was 1380 HP.

Roll rate

200 mph    95 degree/sec
240 mph    105 degrees/sec
280 mph    110 degree/sec
320 mph    105 degree/sec
360 mph    100 degree/sec
400 mph    90 Degree/sec    


Perfomance

The AVG's H81A-2 was 355/360 mph at 14,500 feet compared to the H81-A2's speed of 340 mph.

This info is from Erik Shilling, AVG pilot.

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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2002, 01:44:04 PM »
Again, the ones that went to the AVG were "unofficially designated H81-A3 ", hence as they were 'unofficial' they still officially remained H81-A2.  Therefore for them to be 'unofficially called H81-A3s' it would mean that they had modifications like the ones you describe.  

So the non-standard P40s you describe is supported by it's 'unofficial' name.

This makes sense to me... they were unofficial because they wanted to distinguish them from the standard model.

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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2002, 02:26:48 PM »
If we get p40n I hope it looks like this .