Author Topic: Yikes...any other programmers crap themselves at .Net pricing? (Read 644 times)

LePaul · « **on:** April 08, 2002, 02:39:40 PM »

I like programming in MS Visual Basic, have had VB6 Professional for a while, had 5 before. Now, .Net is out and I thought I'd check the pricing to upgrade.

Well, there is no VB.Net Upgrade, just Visual Studio .Net

And, its $580 with a nice mail in coupon for registered users to mail in and save $300.

Here's a corny idea....if the customer is registered, leggit and pondering upgrading, why not cut the price upon purchase?

Does there .Net software not have the ability to verify a registration?

Seems they are taking lessons from Borland....price it out of sight

The beauty of VB and other programs from MS was they were quite affordable to get into. That seems to have changed.

Anyone else in shell shock too?

I kinda need Professional to get my VB6 code working in it (Standard is heavily stripped down from what i've read. More like a "learning edition").

Kratzer · « **Reply #1 on:** April 08, 2002, 02:42:24 PM »

Ah, I enjoy the beauty of my company buying MSDN subscriptions for me...

LePaul · « **Reply #2 on:** April 08, 2002, 03:27:14 PM »

I hate you!

Pongo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 08, 2002, 03:32:48 PM »

They gave VB away for so long that they destroyed the other development companies. Now they dont have to give it away anymore cause there is no competition. It is still not going to cost what it costs them to develop it. It will still be subsidised by OS sales and Office sales.
My company is recomending no new certifications in VB. They want as many as possible of us to switch to Java.
I am on a big VB project that will be a good revenue creater for quite a while so I doubt I will have to decide for a while.
I still prefer Delphi though

Pei · « **Reply #4 on:** April 08, 2002, 03:36:00 PM »

Come to the darkside, choose java.

Besides IDEs like Visual Studio are for wimps, real men use EMACS!

SageFIN · « **Reply #5 on:** April 08, 2002, 08:53:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Pei
Come to the darkside, choose java.

Besides IDEs like Visual Studio are for wimps, real men use EMACS!

Now that is sheer blasphemy -- real men use Vim and C/C++ (well, ok, Java isn't that bad, at least when compared to Delphi

)!

bloom25 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 08, 2002, 09:01:23 PM »

EMACs, that's too easy, use VI.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #7 on:** April 08, 2002, 10:45:46 PM »

anyone got a minute to explain in laymans terms ? what all these do ? sounds faicinating but i got no thread to hold on to . all all these programs for one thing writing any kind of program ?or som specific kind of program ? thanks if you have the time .

kraquen · « **Reply #8 on:** April 08, 2002, 11:21:37 PM »

you can get just vb in .net for only like $100... it's the .net that comes with all the languages that costs a ton..

ka

8ball · « **Reply #9 on:** April 09, 2002, 12:37:47 AM »

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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
anyone got a minute to explain in laymans terms ? what all these do ? sounds faicinating but i got no thread to hold on to . all all these programs for one thing writing any kind of program ?or som specific kind of program ? thanks if you have the time .

VB stands for Visual Basic and it is a programming language developed by Microsoft. .Net is Microsofts new extension of Visual Basic that allows easier development of software for the internet and networking. Delphi, C/C++, and Java are all other programming languages. Vi and EMACS are text based editors for UNIX and IMO are useless compared to IDE's (except CodeWarrior. CodeWarrior really blows). IDE stands for Integrated Development Environment and it is a more graphical, and many times easier, way to write programs.

If you have any more questions just ask

Voss · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2002, 12:40:26 AM »

<--------------------- Gets FREE Development Tools from Microsoft.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2002, 12:41:03 AM »

thanks

cant think of any decent questions right now but im shure some will come.

SageFIN · « **Reply #12 on:** April 09, 2002, 06:40:09 AM »

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Originally posted by 8ball
Vi and EMACS are text based editors for UNIX and IMO are useless compared to IDE's (except CodeWarrior.

Well why would you compare an editor to an IDE? (Though Emacs is apparently good for much more than just editing -- it probably does quite much everything except make coffee, and who knows if that too has been recently implemented)

One has a developement environment in a *NIX all right, it just isn't integrated into one. Vi or Emacs are just one part of it. And hey, Real Operating Systems (he he) usually come with developement tools included unlike some other rather popular operating systems floating around

straffo · « **Reply #13 on:** April 09, 2002, 07:16:32 AM »

EMACS (*) have been able to make coffee since a long time

LISP (**) powa !

I've seen a lot of strange thingh implemented with Emacs lisp ...
from a minesweeper to chess game (complete with IA)

(*) "Eventually `malloc()'s All Computer Storage"
but I prefer this one : "EMACS Makes A Computer Slow"

(**) "Lots of Irritating Superfluous Parentheses"

devious · « **Reply #14 on:** April 09, 2002, 07:48:48 AM »

Sitting here at work with VS.NET Enterprise Architect Edition - what a pile of crap. Doing the REAL work in C++, Perl or Java, using THE EDITOR, Emacs.

M-x praise-emacs