Author Topic: Palestinian Attack on Powell Motorcade Foiled (Read 1014 times)

~Caligula~ · « **on:** April 13, 2002, 04:25:06 AM »

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12 April: Israeli security foiled a Palestinian terrorist attempt to hit the motorcade driving US secretary of state Colin Powellfrom Ben Gurion Airport to Jerusalem Thursday night, April 12, shortly after he landed. The Secretary was accompanied by Israeli foreign minister Shimon Peres and heads of the US embassy.
Just before 9 pm IT, two hours before the US Secretary arrived, a Palestinian Red Crescent ambulance was stopped by a hidden Israeli security patrol near the gas station on the Modi’in-Jerusalem Highway 443. The driver and his mate had all the necessary permits for transporting a dead Palestinian policeman to the Gaza Strip. However, since Yasser Arafat’s confinement in Ramallah, security has been intensified on all traffic coming from the direction of the Palestinian town, in case of an attempt to smuggle him out. In any case, in a war situation, in which passage from the West Bank to the Gaza Strip has been suspended, all permits are checked for forgeries.
The ambulance was therefore opened up and searched carefully. Hidden under the corpse was a large supply of explosives and a suicider’s bomb belt.
According to some of DEBKAfile’s sources, the two Palestinians admitted under questioning that they had planned to pull the ambulance up on the Jerusalem-Tel Aviv expressway, the route taken later by the Powell motorcade. One of the men was to stay in the vehicle, while the other strapped on the bomb belt and hid in some roadside bushes. When the secretary’s car drove by, the ambulance was rigged to explode. The second bomber was then supposed to leap into the milling crowd of officials and security men and blow himself up.
At 22:07 IT, the booby-trapped Red Crescent ambulance was blown up in a controlled explosion, creating a bang loud enough to frighten dwellers in a broad radius and start the rumor of a rocket attack. Israel security is now investigating the provenance of the Red Crescent ambulance and the official permits..

I got this from here
wether it`s true or not I don`t know.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #1 on:** April 13, 2002, 04:37:08 AM »

DEBKA is about as reliable, unbaised, and impartial a newssource as the old "Die Deutsche Wochenschau" newsreels from WW2 ......

Even you question it.

Samm · « **Reply #2 on:** April 13, 2002, 04:52:28 AM »

Wouldn't be the first time the PLO has killed or tried to kill americans . I know they would applaud my death, any american's death for that matter .

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #3 on:** April 13, 2002, 09:18:53 AM »

or the isrealis for that matter

http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/

Samm · « **Reply #4 on:** April 13, 2002, 09:40:31 AM »

I wonder why the isrealis came to the ship's aid as soon as they stopped attacking it . What was their motive in attacking it in the first place ?

I've never bought that conspiracy theory.
Isreal is being beseiged on all sides in the full scale war in 1967 and in the midst of this they deliberately go to war with their greatest and most powerfull ally ?

That would be like the Phillipines knowingly and willfully attacking the US in WWII .

I'm sorry but it just doesn't add up .

Soviet union was well entrenched in that war, they had migs painted with egyptian markings, SAM batteries etc., we all know the history . So you can imagine the alarm of the isrealis when the fighter pilots ID'd the boat as soviet .
Here is a link that offers a better insight into that day .

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/ussliberty.html

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #5 on:** April 13, 2002, 10:10:02 AM »

so your saying the story is a lie? because it wasent a mistake there is ample proof of that . why when faced with incontrovertable evidence of terrorism on the part of israel aginst the u.s. ending in many deaths of inocent sailors is it unbelievable?
seems pretty much same behavior the palistinians accuse them of. mayby they are out of control religous lunitics? who can milk us taxpayers for 17,000,000 a day ad infanatum and have so much control over our government no one even investigates a unprovoked attack on a united states ship in international waters resulting in multiple deaths. the threat of palistine pales in comparison to the scariness of that fact.

cut them off without a dime. its the only way they will ever stop.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2002, 10:25:50 AM »

i read the site you listed . and it is quite nice unfortunatly i am a sailor and reject about half the "facts" represented are plainly illogical attempts to mislead firing on a unidentified ship ? not being able to tell the difference between a horse carrier and a military spy trawler? horse toejam . not being able to clearly see 10 foot hi ships designation letters at 4 miles in clear seas horse toejam. us ship in a war zone not flying colors HORSE toejam. a us war ship askes to identify herself replying you first lol this is such a silly fabrication it is insulting. sorry i have done the job and there is no way that can be true. smoke and mirrors

cut them off without a dime

Samm · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2002, 10:34:32 AM »

There is ample reason to believe it was a mistake:

1:NO MOTIVE

2: Reported as a soviet vessel possibly flying another countries flag.(not unheard of)

3:Most obvious, they stopped attacking the vessel .

4: When they stopped attacking they came to the ship's aid, even the sailor in that link you posted attests to this .

5: They were at the time being shelled by an egyptian ship, do you think that they thought they were being shelled by a horse transport ?

7: Would a horse transport be able to return fire like the US Liberty did ?

6: If they did ID it as a horse transport would they attack it ? No. So 5, 6 and 7 invalidate the story of Isreal allegedly claiming that it was a horse transport.

I could come up with many more reasons why Isreal wouldn't want to go to war with it's greatest and most powerfull ally while at war with it's neighbors, but I'm not the accusser so I don't bear the burden of proof .

So in this ample proof you speak of surely you have proof of motive aside from "horse toejam". Lets hear it .

Hamish · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2002, 10:44:49 AM »

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An Iranian civilian airliner was shot down by an over-anxious American battleship crew in May 1988, killing all 290 passengers on board.

This guy is using This info for his websight? what a crock. The whole damn sight is worth about as much as the gum i scrape off the bottom of my shoe. The sad part is people will read this and think it's true.

Ham

Samm · « **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2002, 10:53:09 AM »

Actually Hamish I think that is true

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Seems we did shoot down an airliner in the mediterrianian around that time . This could be attributed to some of the things that were going on in the region at the time . Iranian F14's stacking over airliners, buzzing oil platforms stuff like that .

Mathman · « **Reply #10 on:** April 13, 2002, 11:16:39 AM »

Oops, sorry, misread one of the replies...

please ignore this and continue on with your political debate.

-math

Nashwan · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2002, 12:17:01 PM »

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An Iranian civilian airliner was shot down by an over-anxious American battleship crew in May 1988, killing all 290 passengers on board.

It wasn't a battleship, it was the USS Vincennes (sp?)

The Vincennes crew believed the Iranian Airbus was an F-14. They called several times on the distress requency to alert the Iranian plane, but because they believed it was an F-14 they addressed the messages to "Iranian fighter" rather than unidentified aircraft. The Airbus pilot didn't answer because he had no reason to believe "Iranian fighter" was addressed to him.

For some reason, two of the radar operators on the Vincennes then said the Iranian plane was starting a descent toward the Vincennes. Later examination of the tapes showed it was still climbing on it's normal flightpath.

Nashwan · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2002, 12:22:21 PM »

None of the Israeli news sites have the story of the planned attack on Powell.

It's obviously attempted to discredit the Palestinians and attempt to provide an excuse why medical help is being kept from Palestinian areas.

In a few months time this will be quoted as fact to show what the Palestinians are really like.

Straight out of the Goebbels school of propoganda.

Dowding · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2002, 12:59:45 PM »

Come on people, stop posting bollocks from blatantly biased websites as gospel truth. It doesn't tell us anything other than how easy it is to set up a 'news' website.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #14 on:** April 13, 2002, 04:35:27 PM »

the vincennes was somthing like you discribe except the vessel fired of its own violation. it was set on auto mode the vessles ai determined that there were 3 aircraft 1 airbus ( later turned out to be full of weeks old dead bodys)and 2 f14s tucked in close on a normal ships radar this would just show as a single contact but the vincenns was not a normal ship she was one of the first ageis cruisers with a phazed aray radar that can dicern in excess of 200 contacts at one time with a resolution good enough to track individual raindrops at really incredible distances. and AIgood enough to know when it was unquestionably being attacked the ship detected radar ilumination from the f14s and fired 3 missiles the f14s turned off and hit after burners when the ships radar iluminated them and got away. the airbus with the dead bodys did its job and got whacked . got this from a first class o.s. on board at the time but its common knowledge amung the community of operations specialist in the navy. next morning (it happend at night when the ship was most vunerable) they saw that the bodys were in a advanced state of decomposition ( obviously hadent died in the flight) funny how these things change when the "TRUE STORY" gets out.

net result ? we payed reperations to the families of the corpses and ageis ships are not allowed to use auto mode.