we're getting closer....AH Dueling Ladder!!!

[mason22]

 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum41/HTML/000004.html

-m

update 4-21:

exile has the registration page proto running (although not public yet, it is working.) We are awaiting some specially requested artwork, as well as ironing out the needed functions of the ladder before they are implemented into code. -m

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[Kieren]

Oh, man, you guys have to check this out!

[By-Tor]

Very nice work there -Thx in advance for a job well done.Looking forward to trying the finished product!Ive been coming across some very good sticks in h2h practice and Im sure this ladder will be very hotly contested.
Has 'Hunter' from Defts WB ladder been seen in the skies if AH yet?
I came across 'Spitfire' the other night in H2H and fell repeatedly to his finely tuned techniques. Hope to see 'Konrad' soon too,and 'Eadg' has been retuning his WB skills in AH H2H(mostly at my expense!)
Keep up the great work guys -ladders looking great!
Btw-any plans for an after-action report by both parties ala Wallys WB ladder?Those always made for entertaining reading!

[mason22]

 

Originally posted by By-Tor:
Btw-any plans for an after-action report by both parties ala Wallys WB ladder?Those always made for entertaining reading!

By-Tor, thx!! i will pass the suggestion on to Kieren and Exile, sounds like something we definately should have, almost like a log book or pilot records of the duel.

if anyone else has suggestions, please let us know!!

thx, -mas

[mason22]

update 4-21:

exile has the registration page proto running (although not public yet, it is working.) We are awaiting some specially requested artwork, as well as ironing out the needed functions of the ladder before they are implemented into code. -m

[This message has been edited by mason22 (edited 04-21-2000).]just a bumper.

[Ripsnort]

The only suggestion I have is to measure two pilots correctly against one another, both should  be in the same type A/C during the duel.  Each pilot allowed to pick the A/C type between each set.  Otherwise, you may as well fly in main arena.  I'd rather be dueling to exploit a pilots weakness, rather than his A/C weakness.

Here's on a duel should work:

Best of 3 or 5, the last flight being BOTH pilots choice of A/C, however, all other flights being the SAME A/C, and alternating turns on choice.

Co-Altitude
Same Plane (except on last set)
No-guns merge
Last plane airborn wins

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[mason22]

thank you Rip!!

Exile has noted and recorded this. It makes much sense to do same AC for 1 on 1 HTH. However, i think in the squad 4HTH4 (4on4), we are going to allow choice of AC. This will let squads fly "historical" type scenarios against each other. Or show strength as a team, using strengths and weeknesses of AC + ACM (or lack there of   ).

-mas

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[Kieren]

More to consider... the venue should be as neutral as possible.

With CM capabilities it is plausible that one side can "adjust" the arena into a pitched situation. This needs to be avoided, so I suggest H2H duels be hosted (when possible) by a 3rd, neutral, party.

[Exile]

WE could possibly work something out with HTC about a "reserved squad duel" arena. This would provide the "neutral" airspace and we won't have to worry about connection problems as much. Possibly password protected or open to spectators? Squads would agree on a set time and that time could be reserved.

Just an idea.

[mason22]

i'm curious....

is the HTH ladder important to you guys?

what would ya like on it?

not many repsonses so far....remember, its the communities ladder, make it what you want!

let us know!

4-21

btw, Exile has got the registration and the login process constructed and working. (but not released yet).

[Fariz]

I think, that if it will be 5 fights in a set in each one of the pilots shall chose the plane of a duel. If it will be 2:2 game is draw, and is not reported.

Fariz

[mason22]

so lets vote:

to choose AC or not to choose AC?

remember, we are looking at the strength of skills as a pilot not the AC's strengths or weeknesses. or maybe its a combination of the two. what do you think is more important in HTH?
-mas

[hblair]

I'm for same planes. Best out of 5, not stopping at 3 if you're sweeping. In the WB's ladder I flew in you were rewarded big time in points for sweeping the other guy in all 5 rounds.

I respectively disagree about "choosing whatever plane" for the final round, in my opinion this unevens the pure ACM skills of a same planes duel.

As for the arena being rigged by the host, can't you 'unlock' the settings in H2H where the other guy can check them?

I'm all for the after action reports too, preferably by email.

[Kieren]

I think there needs to be a way to accomodate people wanting to fly different aircraft.

I know that many people will fly Spitfires. That's ok with me, but maybe I would like to duel in other craft. I wouldn't want to be forced into 5 Spitfire duels because that is what the guy picked first. Of course, I really don't care if the other guys wants to fly nothing but Spits, but for me that would be dull.

Those that have dueled me know that I let you select whatever you like, and ask you what you want me in. If you say you don't care, I pick something that should make the fight interesting for both of us. I would hate for the rules to prohibit this, as I'm interested in 1 vs 1 fights, not necessarily endless Spitfire fights.

I guess what I'm saying is if both sides agree it should be possible to fly whatever they want. If even one side says they want same planes, then it's same planes.

[Exile]

One point I really liked about the WB Ladder was that they flew "historical match ups". So you'd never see same plane vs same plane. Right now, with AH somewhat limited plane set, this might not be the best way to go, but later on I think it would be.

If we do go same plane, the choice of plane should alternate with the first choice going to the Challenger, giving the Challenger a slight edge in some cases.