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Offline xFURYx

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« on: April 14, 2002, 07:19:49 PM »
hi peeps

     i have a small prob...when im flying a spit or a mossy etc i cant seem to catch other planes...i have gear up flaps up and combat trim on etc.....but for the life of me i cant seem to get the speed to catch people...and im looking around and others are over taking me and catching me and others with no problems ??? can someone explain ot me how or what im doing wrong lol

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2002, 08:51:54 PM »
Hmmm,

FURY.. we need more info than that. assuming you are flying straight and level... There are alot of faster planes out there...  You need to conserve your energy in a shallow dive & look at the help file to see who is slower that you. Zeros and Hurricanes are almost always slower...  Keep at it though.. you'll figure it out!

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2002, 06:05:21 AM »
thanks BigMax   i usually fly spitfires or mosquitos and sometimes P51D ....and with each plane i just cant catch up with others even in a shallow dive or a heave dive....but i look at my 6 and i see same type of planes and others catching me at a rapid rate of knots....lol its frustrating at times

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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2002, 09:00:31 AM »
This is going to sound obvious but it's caught me a few times:
Have you checked you have your prop pitch set correctly?

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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2002, 11:20:45 AM »
This is gonna sound stupid but its fact.

When I was with ripsnorts squad, we had a guy, rangrbob, who was always constantly slower than the rest of us. We all flew the same a/c. We could even takeoff after him. We would catch him and pass him and he could never keep up. He was/is a good pilot so he knew all the a/c things to check.

Nope. Wasn't his PC as far as we could tell. His system was faster than mine and I was on a dialup at the time. I "think", not positive, he was too.

Never did figure that one out. Not sure if the condition still exists. Haven't talked with him in a while.

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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2002, 02:44:46 PM »
Fury:

It's hard to tell without more information what your slowness is a result of:
(a)Is it due to airframe or engine configuration that you have set you are not aware of?
(b)Is it due to your method of energy managment in maneuver?

If it is (a) then besides flaps and gears check the following as well:
  • Check your RPM settings and make sure you're at max RPM (this is what Pei is talking about regarding prop pitch).
  • Check to make sure you don't have any fuel tanks or ordinance (bombs and rockets) loaded.
  • Are you not using War Emergency Power (WEP) when the other aircraft are?


If it is (b) then there is a whole set of other concepts regarding aircraft maneuver and its relationship to energy management you need to get familiar with.

Give us some more specifics and it may become more clear why you are lacking speed- e.g. What is your a/c configuration (light? heavy? flaps deployed etc?)? What is your alt?  What is your starting airspeed as you begin the engagement?  Where is the bandit in relationship to you and how far away?  What set of maneuvers are you going through?

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2002, 03:16:59 PM »
just somethin to check...

I use saitek cyborg usb, and the throttle slider sometimes may seem to be at 100% but in fact its not...

Now i calibrate the throttle just shy of 100% travel that way if i think its 100% it is..


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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2002, 07:00:23 PM »
yes i use the exact same joystick ....the usb 3D gold cyborge.....ive also tried to set it just below 100% ........my problem is also causing me trouble in getting bombers up...i can get off the ground..but getting it over 1000ft takes ages and im so close to stalling then ......ive gone through all the FAQs and read nearly all the post here to find a solution but im stuck....

   ive set my prop idle to max ....messed with my trim all sorts, but im just slow lol....and im not fat so my weight aint the reason lol ..:(
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2002, 07:05:40 PM »
my joystick throttle had the problem of coming off of 100 to like 99 or 98.. which isn't a big difference, but it disengages wep.. which is a big difference..  so i calibrated my throttle from 0 to about 75%.. now if i push my throttle anywhere over 75% it's at 100%

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2002, 07:06:51 PM »
oh and watch your VSI.. most of the fighters can take off and climb at or around 3000ft / min.. so if you're doing that, chances are you're ok..

the bombers are much lower than 3000, with the 17 being at about 1.1 and the lanc about .6

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2002, 10:47:02 PM »
Prop pitch?

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2002, 10:47:27 PM »
Fury:

Fully loaded heavy bombers (B-17, Lancaster) can be tricky to get off the ground.  You've got to get quite a bit of airspeed to get above the "fully-loaded" stall speed because of the added weight.  Try using a notch or two of flaps on takeoff.  That should help a bit.

From your information it's hard to tell if it is a question of energy management vs. h/w or s/w control config issue or airframe configuration issue.  Try a flight level speed test with an aircraft you usually fly and compare it to the AH max speed charts on the HTC website.  This will verify if you're getting to max speed in the aircraft in question or not.

For the flight level speed test you have to make sure you're level and not climbing or diving any.  Hitting "X" to go auto-pilot level is useful for maintaining level flight.

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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2002, 09:47:47 AM »
bombers have flaps down by 2 notches at takeoff
raise them before starting your takeoff roll


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