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Offline DrDea

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« on: April 21, 2002, 12:33:33 AM »
tonight the hide the CV game went insane. We had a bish not only hideing a knit cv for the 2nd or 3rd day but they were hideing the cv from 42.WE OWNED THE PORT!!!!!!!!!!!  This has gotten way to far outta hand.When morons hide cv's because they THINK the port is going to be taken it needs to be changed.All I hear is tactical tactical tactical.Thats roadkill.Its a few bishops calling the ball for the entire side.We cant defend a port because the cv is 7 sectors away burried in a corner that took at least 4 hours to drive it there.Please do something about the CV situations.Make them revert to the owning team after 2 hours or something.This crap by a few is taking the fun out of this game.:confused:
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2002, 08:23:20 AM »
I hate to open up that can of worms again, but CV hiding is roadkill.

  • Every CV has a port
  • If a CV is sunk, the port can rebuild a new one in 15 minutes
  • Should the port be taken, the carrier group no longer has the support of those HUGE resources


I say that if a port is taken, and the country doesn't already have a CV attached to that port, the port should build a new one in 15-30 minutes.  Also, if the port supporting a CV is captured, that country has 1 hour to get that port back before the group is scuttled from lack of support.

I realize that this means that at any time, there could be 3 CVs operating out of one port (wouldn't that be an AMAZING naval engagement?!?), but this seems like a fair way to handle the problem.  CV hiding just takes a lot of fun out of the game.  It'd be nice if there was some incentive to HOLDING an enemy port.

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2002, 08:42:57 AM »
Rude............... definite whine of the week here.......:D :D :D :D :D

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2002, 09:22:00 AM »
I think it's a good move

don't forget everone will get banged in the SE corner
This tacticalmove balanced it somehow

WTG bish we are the kings off the SE corner :D

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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2002, 09:26:44 AM »
Make every operational (e.g. main structures up) port build a new cv every 2 hours, regardless if there's one or more already.

That way there could be an infinite number of cvs, but nme players would surely prevent that ;)

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2002, 10:04:33 AM »
I think I have come full circle here.  When this first all started hapening, I hated it.  I gave up locates everytime to the enemy so that they could find and sink it.  I drove it back into action ... I did it all.  

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I think it's a good move

don't forget everone will get banged in the SE corner
This tacticalmove balanced it somehow

WTG bish we are the kings off the SE corner


I couldnt agree more :D

GIVE 'EM HELL BISH!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2002, 10:13:38 AM »
Looks like I have some work to do in Bishland.

...just gaming the game; nothing more ;)

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2002, 10:45:59 AM »
a solution to this should be found

The last time I tried to hide a fleet a fellow teammate went on channel 1 announcing the fleet's course.  Of course before the fleet had time to get very far.

Either we all do it or noone has the ability to do so, the latter being the simplest to implemement.


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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2002, 11:37:25 AM »
how can you "hide" a CV in the game? just send out scouts like they did in real life. you don't even have to see it, the CV gives it's pos away with flack. when you find it , launch a "sink the bismark" raid to sink it, sounds like "fun" to me.

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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2002, 12:16:37 PM »
hmm flying over hour to try to find cv....  Naah; I rather change country and start spying those dweebs :)

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2002, 12:19:50 PM »
oh does it John...


You want to fly for over an hour probably close to 2 hours having to gain alt before u move over enemy territory trying to reach the target?  Nevermind that the 262's will come a looking for you.

Alone you don't stand a chance unless the enema is asleep.. and what if you miss with your one chance?
Take friends... how many will it take to ensure you get 8k on the cv?  Can you find that many people willing to be bored for an hour and then pissed off when they get shot down after an hour of boredom?

Its not worth it, and hardly fun

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Re: HT PLEASE concider this
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2002, 12:23:03 PM »
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Originally posted by DrDea
We had a bish


who was me...

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WE OWNED THE PORT!!!!!!!!!!![/B]


which was lost in about 20 minutes after Dea tried to put it in action...

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Its a few bishops calling the ball for the entire side.


as I told it is more than few bishops, rooks or nits, it is very different oppinions about fleet hiding, some hate it, some like it, some do not care.

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We cant defend a port because the cv is 7 sectors away burried in a corner that took at least 4 hours to drive it there.


how about logic? This fleet was close to port when port was captured, so fleet close to port do not save fleet and port sometimes?

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Please do something about the CV situations.Make them revert to the owning team after 2 hours or something.This crap by a few is taking the fun out of this game.:confused:


using words like "roadkill" and "crap" makes your point much less constructive, turning it into a whine.

Problem exist though, if you return fleet (which I did before), or hide it (which I do now) you get problems. One of this problems is that there is no rule everyone follows, for example rooks had our fleet hidden 2 days on the very same map just few days ago.  

Second one is personal. When I hide fleet I get private or public assaults, critics etc. Funny that when I return fleet I get privated or public assaults, critics etc. If I wash my hand I get privates asking me to get fleet and hide fleet, or get fleet and return it. If I reject people are offended again. Whatever happens I get a head acke.

As I posted before I have chosen my position, I will hide fleets when I am online. If you want fleet, up raid, and get it. I will try to defend it though.

I hope HTC will do something about this problem, like fleet returning to captured port in several hours, which can solve the problem fast. Till that rooks and nits fleets which are captured by bishops will be hidden if situation requires so, and if I will have enough rating to do so.

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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2002, 01:13:05 PM »
In that case don't start squeaking if I swap to the bishes and start giving information about your strikes.
Who ever makes decision to hide a fleet should also know it will affect his country just like it does to country who owns the port ;)

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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2002, 01:58:47 PM »
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In that case don't start squeaking if I swap to the bishes and start giving information about your strikes.
Who ever makes decision to hide a fleet should also know it will affect his country just like it does to country who owns the port ;)


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Offline DrDea

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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2002, 03:47:16 PM »
Ya know Fariz Im gonna give you credit where its due.You put together the most outstanding missions I have EVER had the pleasure to take part in.When you fly a mission people know its going to be 75% positive.Youve pretty much earned the rateing you have in my book.
  What you havnt earned is the right to hide a cv we hold the port to.That cv was 6 to 7 sectors away from the port.How long exactly was this port under attack and if it took them 3 to 4 hours to take it dont you think that cv could have made a diffrence,if not THE difference?Ive resigned myself to the fact people will hide the cv's to rook or Knit ports..What I have a problem with is hideing a cv to the port we own.Thats just a bit to much paranoia for an online game.NO one should have the ability to force there desires on a country to make that much of a diffrence.We cant put it to a vote so ya have to use common scence here.Not everyone flys for hours on end.With a plan that you set up hours in advance.I get a few hours here and there.Like I said.I would fly every mission you ran,but why should I have to fly your way OUT of a mission?
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