POLL: How many of you want the buffs changed?

[2Late4U]

What needs to be changed is the M-5 super-optronic bomb sight.  Yea sure, make it more accurate than historical  accuracy at 10k, but I think that above 10K the bombs should have a RANDOM DRIFT of 1' per 100 feet so that at 30K your bombs drift up to 200 feet (two hanger lengths I'd say).

This keeps the bombing accurate enough when at REASONABLE altitudes, but gets rid of most of the 30-35k strato buffs that take zero skill to pork a base.


As far a gun lethality, I have little problems killing buffs.  It all depends on if you do it right.  Get above them and dive down at oblique angles and you can kill a 17 or Lanc with realative certanty.  It also is very east to kill them if you wait till they are lining up on the target (as 95% of buffs dont have xtra gunner).  You can wait till they are near the target, and see the tell-tale little aleron wiggles...drop down take off a wing and BOOM!
   


[This message has been edited by 2Late4U (edited 04-18-2001).]

[lazs]

it's both the fact that they have too many concessions and that they don't have enough targets or... targets that are realistic.

I will concede that without fixing the fact that they have no realistic targets you can't make the bombers more than the sick joke they are right now realism wise, and still have people fly em.

They are not just broken realism wise they are a victim of simplistic and unreealistic strat and targets too.
lazs

[StSanta]

I want Lanc and B17 and b26 whiners to feel what it's like to fly the JU88  

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[BlauK]

B...  nice letter  

Dispersion according to altitude is needed! If one wants to bomb accurately he has to stay lower. If the bomb blast is now too small, make it as large as it was in real. Adjust the damage levels.

Also one gunner should not be able to fire several guns accurately at the same time. Either AI for other gunner positions, allow more gunners in one plane or simply just keep the other gunner positions quiet if they are not manned.

No more single B-17 raids. Either fly in a formation or be escorted!

[lazs]

yep blau... it allways amazes me when people tout things like WWII online and all the infantry, cooks, truckdrivers,  whatever that will be in the game and be real people but in AH and other sims.... we can't get a crew of even 5 or six to man a 10 man bomber.   We can't get people to escort bombers....  Any boring job is ignored (and rightly so. it's our dime) so.... the bombers have to be one man porcupines with laser guide bombs that "affect" the fun of a lot of people who couldn't care less about em or no one would even fly the POS.
lazs

[Frost]

B

[AKSeaWulfe]

Just for the sake of statistics:
Tour15:
AKSWulfe has 2 kills and has been killed 0 times against the B-17G.
Stain has 3 kills and has been killed 0 times against the B-17G.
Stain has 4 kills and has been killed 0 times against the B-26B.
Stain has 1 kill and has been killed 0 times against the Ju 88.
Tour14:
Stain has 3 kills and has been killed 0 times against the B-17G.
Stain has 1 kill and has been killed 1 time against the B-26B.
AKSWulfe has 4 kills and has been killed 2 times against the B-17G.
AKSWulfe has 5 kills and has been killed 1 time against the B-26B.
AKSWulfe has 3 kills and has been killed 1 time against the Ju 88.
AKSWulfe has 1 kill and has been killed 0 times against the Lancaster III.

Now if I add all that up:
27 kills over 2 tours and 5 deaths.

If I set myself up for a good pass, all I need is one pass and I've got that bomber dead. If I set myself up for a lousy pass, well then I can expect to go down.
Oh and that's using the supposedly "undermodelled" Mausers on the 190A5. <shrug> Guess it's all in the eye of the defeated.
-SW

[SOB]

A

[Dowding]

A

I think the priority is planeset at the moment. Maybe one day the 6 people at HTC could turn their valuable attention to this problem.

Tone down the buff guns and you need escort - where is this escort going to come from? Most people find escorting boring - in the historical scenarios, its the task that most people don't want. From my experience anyway.

[Seeker]

Staus quo.

Wobble, do the LW thing, data man, data.

Show some figures for bomb flight deviation due to wind etc.

[Jebo44]

Well I think everything is balanced with the bombers, except maybe the bomb loadouts. WE NEED MORE BOMBS IN THE 17!

Anyway getting serious here, the ones of ya that are complaining are prolly the same ones that pull HO or RO till your 500 from the bomber, and you come straight in, and then you die. What do you expect here? You have to use some fighter pilot skills when you attack a bomber.

One be higher and faster and two come in on a blindspot. It's not hard, well it is for  me, but there are plenty of guys that waste me that way. It's called being a pilot instead of a drone

And you might need to realize that some of us know how to use the guns on the bombers, just a wild guess there though

[ET]

This buff argument has become inane and ridiculous and carried on by the ones who don't want to take the time to set the run up.No one says any thing about carriers that never run out of fuel,ammo,planes or pilots but just go on and on.Some one with more knowledge could list all the problems with fighter planes and GVs that are not modeled perfectly.There is nothing perfect in the MA.This is a GAME.Get a grip.This is not real life.If it were you would be killed just once.Lighten up and enjoy whats there.

[Beltfedd]

Taking into account the way is entire game functions and is played right now, I say A.  I think a major re-vamp would be required to have it any other way at this point (as some others have mentioned).

On another note, I heard on the Discovery Channel that the US Air Force expects up to 6' of deviation due to turbulence/wind for every 1000 feet alt on dumb bombs.  


Belt

[NHFoxtro]

 

Originally posted by StSanta:
I want Lanc and B17 and b26 whiners to feel what it's like to fly the JU88  

Santa thats not a hard bomber at all. The variety of targets that can be taken out on one pass is what is so great about it. It takes some pounding to put it down, and the manuverablities when empty is just like a Fighter. Didn't they use the Ju-88 to go up and attack the B-17? I believe the did at some part in the War. The only thing that I see bad about the Ju-88 is that it is gas guzzler.

[TheWobble]

 

On another note, I heard on the Discovery Channel that the US Air Force expects up to 6' of deviation due to turbulence/wind for every 1000 feet alt on dumb bombs.

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