Shooting spree in German High School

[Animal]

A gun is a cowards weapon.
They should all be destroyed.

We should all carry swords.

[Elfenwolf]

Amazing how this is immediately politicized to put an anti-gun control slant on it. The way to avoid these types of gun tragedies is to have LESS gun control? Uh....I'm having trouble following that logic.

Miko, statistics show that in America your handgun is more likely to kill you or a member of your family rather than an outlaw. I hardly think arming everyone will cut down on gun deaths, and indeed, may actually increase gun deaths.

[Gh0stFT]

unbelievable 18 Dead
How many famalies have this salamander destroyed today and
he got away shoting himself
I dont think more gun control would avoid this today tragedy,
there will be allways smuggle of weapons

[hblair]

But there are soooo many freakin guns in circulation, if they stopped production today it'd take forever to get rid of them. And if the gov't could get rid of them, there would be people making their own guns. Do you know how easy it would be for a guy with average machinist skills to make a deadly gun ? With the state that technology has progressed to, there's just NO way you can keep guns out of the hands of criminals. It's a lost cause.

The only real gun control is education and economic prosperity.

[miko2d]

Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Miko, statistics show that in America your handgun is more likely to kill you or a member of your family rather than an outlaw. I hardly think arming everyone will cut down on gun deaths, and indeed, may actually increase gun deaths.

 Same with cars, elictricity, cigarettes, pools and fast food - have to exercise caution.

 I do not mind taking responcibility for my life and my family's - even if I have to be more carefull. I object to being at mercy of any freak with an illegal gun who wants to shoot me.

 Number of accidental gun deaths is not a big concern of mine. Number of murders where victim is disarmed by law for the enjoyment of the criminal is what concerns me more.

 miko

[midnight Target]

WTF.....lets just make sure all kids and teachers go to school packin heat.

18 dead......probably has nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with some kid feeling alienated and picked upon.

Sad chit.

[lord dolf vader]

sorry for the familys and the dead, dont see where u.s. gun laws really have any pertenence.
just sad somone sick killed others who wanted to live. seems like mental health is the real issue. you want to kill people in a techheavy society there is always a way.

[Ripsnort]

Hey, if he didn't have a gun, he'da used a car to mow em all down with, at an opportune time. This ain't about guns, guys, its about society.

[Toad]

I don't think anyone would argue the fact that German gun control laws are far more severe than what we have in the US.

So it should be pretty obvious that stricter gun laws cannot prevent this type of stuff from happening.

Sandman, you're just supporting a different mantra. Not any better, just different.

Animal, if you got your way the butchery would simply be done with swords. There's enough examples of slaughter with swords around to suggest that you can kill a significant number with a sword just as you can with a gun. The main difference would be that size and strength would now enter into it; the big strong guys would probably do way better. The term "bully" would probably regain its former more menacing meaning. There's a reason for that old saw about ""God created man, Sam Colt made them equal."

As Miko pointed out, the INANIMATE OBJECT is not to blame here. It's the perverted use of an inanimate object for evil BY MAN that is the problem.

That part doesn't seem to have changed since Cain whacked Abel with a rock. I don't expect it will change, either.. no matter how many times we all hold hands and sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.....".

BTW, how's things going in the slaughter between the Israelis and Palestinians today? Has the Christian V Moslem butchery in Sudan slowed down any? Anyone bludgeoned to death in NYC this morning? Anyone killed by a knife in Delhi?

Common factor? MAN. Not inanimate objects, MAN.


OK, this ground has been plowed enough.

[AKDejaVu]

Actually Rip.. this one is about guns.

When German citizens cite U.S. liberal gun laws as the reason behind Columbine... incidents like this highlight the flaw in the argument.

The solution to people committing illegal acts is not to create more laws.

AKDejaVu

[Elfenwolf]

You're right, Rip. 18 dead cause of some nut is bipartisan.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM


Oh... and nice troll SikBoy.

Yeah, my lure was way too small to catch fish in a gun control pond. I'm just no good at this. I'll have to watch elfenwolf somemore.

-Sikboy

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Toad
Sandman, you're just supporting a different mantra. Not any better, just different.

I'm not supporting anything. I'm trolling.

[babek-]

Originally posted by Eagler
on a side note
after reading this:
[url] It seems that there are students 10 to 19 in the same school?
Is that correct? Is that normal for schools in Germany?

Its a long time ago, when I went to school, but if I am right there is the following system in Germany:

Grundschule (Primary School) 1st to 4th class;  5-9 year old pupils Gymnasium (Secondary School) 5th to 13th class; 9 to 18 year old pupils.

So - if you have entered school with 5 years you will finish it with 17 years and could start to study.

Regulary you will finish in Germany with 18 the school, but its also possible that some are 1 or 2 years older because they had to repeat a class.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by babek-


Otherwise we will get here the same chaos as in countries where people could by weapons like candies in shops.

Insanity knows no nationalities, no borders, and for that matter knows no gunlaws my friend, none whatsoever.