Author Topic: Oh man I thought PC was bad in the USA, sorry Canada :( (Read 989 times)

Udie · « **on:** April 29, 2002, 10:46:38 AM »

http://www.canada.com/edmonton/edmontonjournal/specials/story.html?id={452AC91A-974E-493E-B464-F4954EA0BB7D}

What an absolute shame. It's truely disgusting what seems to be happening to this hero, all over an squealing picture of one of his kills.

If they court martial the guy, I hope he's allowed to enlistin the Rangers or Delta Force or something down here in the USA. We can always use more good soldiers.

sigh....

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Thanks Tahgut, does it work now?

midnight Target · « **Reply #1 on:** April 29, 2002, 10:54:25 AM »

Think your link is porked Udie. Even tried copy and paste....no joy. Obviously you have pissed off the PC gods and will pay!:eek:

Mighty1 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 29, 2002, 11:17:00 AM »

Your link truncated the edmontonjournal part. Try this.Soldier Story

SOB · « **Reply #3 on:** April 29, 2002, 01:22:06 PM »

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Perry, a trained sniper, is under investigation for allegedly participating in a so-called "calling card" photograph of a dead Afghan fighter.

A cigarette had been stuck in the corpse's mouth and a sign on its chest read "F... terrorism."

LOL, he should get a medal for creativity...or maybe that would just be a patch?

SOB

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #4 on:** April 29, 2002, 01:34:52 PM »

The Canadian government seems to be hell bent on proving that Parisians aren't the snobiest people in the world.

Combine this article with the reporter writing that Canada doesn't like to admitt that their soldiers kill people and you get a somewhat staggering overview.

It seems they think that they only have a military to show the rest of the world how much better they are than everyone else. How much "above it all" they are.

AKDejaVu

Maverick · « **Reply #5 on:** April 29, 2002, 01:42:41 PM »

It sure looks like my assessment of the story and Canadian "apologist" in the sniper thread was right on. The chain of command in Canada has more than a few weak links, they're twisted too. Threatening this guy with a court is absurd. I think there is a definite need for a reality check in the Canadian upper echelons. The troopies have their heads on straight but they are certainly getting no support from home.

Pongo · « **Reply #6 on:** April 29, 2002, 01:59:43 PM »

Thats sums up all of what is bad about my country..
fear
fear
fear
Young guy does his job. Without the benifit of propaganda to de -humanise his enemy or any nationalistic furour to stoke the flames...and gets a little carried away..and instead of getting a talking to he gets charged...
But the leadership of our armed forces and our country are so afraid of anything that they cashier the guy...

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should note that these are the same clowns that cover up rapes if they can be and cover up illegal expenditures and send out airmen out in 40 year old seakings....
dont leave me alone with the prettythangholes...

Curval · « **Reply #7 on:** April 29, 2002, 02:10:54 PM »

Canada is the most "outwardly" PC country I have ever lived in. The problem there is that below the surface of their "idilyic mosaic" of cultures there is racism and bigotry festering that no-one wants to talk about.

The military is the place where it seems to boil over occassionally.

About four or five years ago an entire airbourne regiment was disbanded after a number of racist incidents in Somalia were made public.

What you are seeing here is a "backlash" to all of that.

Samm · « **Reply #8 on:** April 29, 2002, 02:17:53 PM »

Pongo, he didn't get carried away, that's what soldiers are supposed to do .

midnight Target · « **Reply #9 on:** April 29, 2002, 02:39:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Samm
Pongo, he didn't get carried away, that's what soldiers are supposed to do .

It may be what soldiers do, it is definitely not what they are supposed to do. The act was wrong, and the reaction is overblown.

Hortlund · « **Reply #10 on:** April 29, 2002, 02:50:48 PM »

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...During that 1993 mission, Canadian soldiers tortured and beat to death a 16-year-old Somalian boy. Photos of the bound and bloodied teen outraged and disgusted Canadians and led to the dismantling of the airborne regiment.

You canadians are weird...You dismantle an airborne regiment because some guys screw up??

Canada...the country where the PC-crowd finally lost it.

Curval · « **Reply #11 on:** April 29, 2002, 03:07:07 PM »

Hortlund...

It's a bit more complicated than that.

The regiment that was disbanded was rife with Neo-Nazi types that were threatening the integrity of the Canadian forces.

The Somalia incident to which you refer was a disgrace, but it was only made public after numerous attempts by high ranking officers to cover up the incident. Then a few videos were publicised showing neo-nazi types "hazing" new recruits, including a black recruit. These guys were forcing the "newbies" to smear excrement over themselves etc etc.

When the average Canadian saw that crap on TV they were appalled. The Canadian military has a glorious reputation world-wide for their actions in both World Wars and also for their Peace-Keeping efforts since the last world war.

So...instead of trying to pick the bad apples off a rotting tree they simply cut the whole damn thing down.

midnight Target · « **Reply #12 on:** April 29, 2002, 03:16:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund

You canadians are weird...You dismantle an airborne regiment because some guys screw up??

Canada...the country where the PC-crowd finally lost it.

Kinda makes me admire the resolve of our Northern neighbors. The Canadian Government stepped up and did the right thing. All wars have atrocities. Not all countries react like the Canadians.

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The Somalia inquiry was established in November 1994, after the military's portrayal of the Somalia atrocities as the work of a few bad apples had been undermined by a series of devastating leaks. It was learned that army officers had promised to reward the first soldier to kill a Somali. Scores of Canadian troops had heard the cries of 16-year-old Shidone Arone as he was beaten to death over several hours, yet none intervened. Snapshots and video tapes surfaced that showed Canadian troops engaging in barbaric hazing rituals and using racist epithets to describe Somalis and otherwise mocking and humiliating them.

Samm · « **Reply #13 on:** April 29, 2002, 03:21:19 PM »

Midnight target why do you think it was wrong ? Soldiers are supposed to have that kind of motivation . If you think that is wrong you would be appalled by what some US army units have in their trophy cases . In Desert Storm British soldiers played football with a head, were they wrong ? No . I remember my drill seargant showing me a pic of himself from Just Cause crouched by a dead guy with an mre spoon full of brain, in mock gesture as if he was eating, was it wrong ? No. So I guess you think that the thousand of soldiers that took photos of the corpses on the highway of death were wrong ? In WWII they used to send skulls home to their girlfriends . This sort of spirit should be nurtured in the warrior class, not admonished .

BTW. I agree with you about the canucks in somolia .

I remember in Desert Storm the 101st Div had reissued decks of "death" cards . They looked great, they had an eagle carrying a skull in it's tallons. Anyone know where I can find a deck today ?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #14 on:** April 29, 2002, 03:52:31 PM »

I wonder if this gutless PC crap is why Canada is so ignored in the world and generally not taken seriously. It seems the national culture and human spirit is so diluted by by PC ideology nobody respects Canada because they see Canada has no respect and pride in itself- except for pride in her indifference and lack of characracter.