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Offline midnight Target

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« on: April 29, 2002, 11:02:19 AM »
One of my favorite Clancy novels. I hope Hollywood does it justice.  
Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan?
I guess Harrison Ford is a little long in the tooth.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2002, 11:09:04 AM »
Just as long as they don't cast William DeFoe as Clark again.

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2002, 11:11:02 AM »
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Just as long as they don't cast William DeFoe as Clark again.

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2002, 11:14:33 AM »
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One of my favorite Clancy novels. I hope Hollywood does it justice.  
Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan?
I guess Harrison Ford is a little long in the tooth.


mine too

Just for continuity, HFord should have been Ryan

Fantastic book, will probably be a "good" movie
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2002, 11:23:11 AM »
Thought the book was OK.  Maybe rank it 4th overall from the Clancy stuff.

My God.. the first 200 pages were tough to get through.  Picked up considerably from there.

I'm suprised they are going younger with Jack Ryan though... He's supposed to be Vice President at the end of this one.. isn't he?  I just can't see Ben Afleck as vice president.

It kind of reminds me of a "where are they now" that I saw on Ally Sheedy.  She'd almost gotten the role in a movie opposite Richard Geere... but the casting people said she was too old to be Geere's girlfriend.  Her response was "I wonder if I'm too old to play Jack Nickleson's girlfriend?"

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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2002, 11:46:57 AM »
Wrong book DJ, you're thinking of 'Debt of Honor'.
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2002, 11:48:41 AM »
As long as they dont cast Alec Baldwin as anything.

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2002, 11:48:44 AM »
IIRC this book immediately precedes 'Clear and Present Danger' chronologically.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2002, 11:49:18 AM »
Sum of all Fears... nuclear weapon being built.

Debt of Honor... Japanese Attack.

Ryan was already in VP office (because of ending in Sum of All Fears) and effectively becomes President at end of Debt of Honor.

Right?

Edit: Debt of Honor was a total Prequil now that I think about it... Clark's origins.  Can't remember what the Japanese conflict title was... Jack was asked to be VP at beginning of it (because of Sum of all Fears) and then is almost inaugerated at the end of the book.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2002, 11:51:37 AM »
They have completely changed the plot.

"When the president of Russia suddenly dies and is succeeded by a man about whom little is known, tension increases as old fears ignite new paranoia. Director of Central Intelligence, Bill Cabot (Freeman), recruits a young analyst from the Russian desk, Jack Ryan (Affleck), to supply insight and advice. Then the unthinkable happens: the capital Chechnya is leveled by a nuclear bomb. America is quick to blame the Russians and mistrust escalates despite Ryan's certainty that other players are at work. He's right. Terrorists bent on provoking open war between the two nations are moving behind the scenes to manufacture and escalate a conflict. When they succesful ly detonate a second bomb outside Baltimore during the Super Bowl, the world is pushed inexorably towards war... "
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2002, 12:11:24 PM »
Reading Rainbow Six I always had a mental picture of Clark played by this man:




An older man.
And his protegee and son-in-law would be John Leguizamo.
At least, thats how I see it.

As for Ryan.. I think Harrison Ford should still play it. Make it as it some time has passed. The man still looks great for his age, and it would add more credibility.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2002, 12:18:45 PM »
DJV:

Debt of Honor was indeed the Japanese attack, and the airliner thing.  Clark's story was "Without Remorse."  Fairly sure about that, will check my books later in the evening.

Animal:

The Smoking Man from X-Files?  He matches his role in that series, but not sure how well he passes for an ex-SEAL.  But yeah, TSM has a very sinister, don't F with me aura.  

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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2002, 12:26:53 PM »
His character in X-Files was ex commando, ex mercenary, ex assassin, ex everything bad.

If you take a look at old ex SEALS and Green Berets, they dont exactly look like pumped up RAMBOs.
Cigarette man has a stare that very much reminds me of experienced commandos/cancers who know what they are doing, like Clark.

Chavez OTOH, is a young strong upstart, Leguizamo  would do cool.

Ryan, Harrison Ford is Ryan.
Ben Affleck is that buffoon from Pearl Harbor.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2002, 12:28:31 PM »
You got it wrong, Djvu. Ryan was Vicepresident for just a few hours, not for a complete book.

Complete series of Jack Ryan, named in cronologic order. I own all of them and have read'em quite some times.


1-Without remorse  (precuel)
2-Patriot Games      (Ryan vs Irish terrorists)
3-The hunt of the Red October    (Best Clancy novel ever-period)
4-The cardinal of the Kremlin     (theme: Star Wars)
5-Clear and Present danger     (Drug Wars)
6-Sum of All fears                      (A-bomb in denver)
7-Debt of honor                        (War vs Japan)
8-Executive Orders I and II       (Ryan as President)
9-The Bear and the Dragon I and II)  (last Ryan books so far


in Clear and Present Danger, Ryan gets to be interim Subdirector of the CIA (Intelligence) in substitution of the ill and then dead Admiral Greer.

In Sum of All Fears, Ryan is Subdirector of the CIA, leaves the job at the end of the story.

in Debt of Honor, Ryan returns to the government as National Security Advisor  (thanks sikboy:)) As a reward for his good job, President Durling rewards him with the Vicepresidency -vacant because kealty's sex scandal-.

 During the ceremony of Ryan's nomination as vicepresident, the 747 crashes into the Capitol killing almost all the government, except for the non-present members of the congress, Alan Trent, and Jack Ryan, who was in an annex building and who immediately steps up as new President.


IMHO, there is not much more to write about Ryan. The Bear and the Dragon was quite nice but the end comes too...suddenly. Kinda reminds me "Red Storm Rising", Clancy's 2nd best book ever (IMHO), wich came to a very very sudden and drastic end...it left me with the impression that he didn't know how to end the story and had to "cut it down" by any mean possible.


Anyway in the "Ryan's universe" there is not much more to be told or done ;). Quite sad because I like Clancy's novels about Jack Ryan -even when I find them too much idealistic and american-centered for my "foreign"  taste ;)-, and the other series (Op-Center) is utter BS.
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2002, 01:13:41 PM »
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in Debt of Honor, Ryan returns to the government as Assessor of National Security (translation?)


National Security Advisor (official title: Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs I think).



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