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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2002, 04:59:23 PM »
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by Dan Simmons:
It's fascinating that in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, the only author in demand on the TV networks was Tom Clancy. As a writer, as a handler of language and character and metaphor, Clancy ranks somewhere slightly below the sixth-graders I used to teach. But he knows something -- about terrorists, about weapons of mass destruction, about the world we live in with all its fanaticism and teeth and cynicism and terror. - The Outsider, Salon


Dan may be on to something...

What he didn't say is that Clancy's latest work in the last few years is absolute toejame. I rather liked Red October, Red Storm and Without Remorse and Patriot Games. I've since lost interest in Clancy now that Ryan is no more than a mouthpiece for Clancy's own political agenda.
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« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2002, 05:05:44 PM »
Agreed Sandman.

Bear & Dragon, I bought with anticipation, and still have not finished. I used to get a Clancy novel and devour all 800+ pages in record time. This book is nothing more than politics wrapped around a plot so slow I still can't identify it. I will finish the book someday, but I am disappointed.

OTOH Red Storm Rising was very interesting as a "what if" book, and I think would make an excellent movie. And Hunt for Red Oct... well thats just gooooood.
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« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2002, 05:27:38 PM »
There is also going to be a new Sum of All Fears PC game from RSE and Ubi.

It uses the Ghost Recon engine, and you control an FBI HR team.

We shall see...

Gamespot has a brand spankin' new preview up.

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/0,11114,561095,00.html
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« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2002, 06:05:24 PM »
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What he didn't say is that Clancy's latest work in the last few years is absolute toejame. I rather liked Red October, Red Storm and Without Remorse and Patriot Games. I've since lost interest in Clancy now that Ryan is no more than a mouthpiece for Clancy's own political agenda.
I couldn't agree more... though... I did like portions of Rainbow 6.

His political views ruined his books some time ago.  The last three I rolled my eyes a bit too much on.  All except The Bear and the Dragon... that one still has a bookmark on page 200.

Best reads from Clancy:

1. Hunt for Red October
2. Without Remorse
3. Red Storm Rising

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« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2002, 06:23:46 PM »
OK, I'm a little confused here.  In the overall sequence of events, was this before or after Luke and Laura broke up on All My Children?  LOL, kidding, just KIDDING!

Cya Up!
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« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2002, 06:42:35 PM »
Me either!

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I won't be going to the movies for this one.
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« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2002, 07:00:04 PM »
"The Bear and the Dragon" should be avoided at all cost. Borderline racist, boring, despite some rather pathetic attempts at being erotic.

"Red Storm Rising" and "Hunt for Red October" is by far my favourite.

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« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2002, 08:38:53 PM »
Dawggus, Luke and Laura were on General Hospital and... huh?...  OH MY GOD WHAT"S HAPPENING TO ME !?!?!?!
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« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2002, 10:59:13 PM »
"The Bear and the Dragon" wasn't that bad, not my favorite, but a decent read.  "Debt of Honor" was more of a dry read (except for the end).  The best has to be "Without Remorse".  Easily.  

BTW- Animal,  was watching "Executive Decision" last night and had the same thought about John Leguizamo.  He would make an excellent Ding Chavez.
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« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2002, 04:37:19 AM »
Affleck SUCKS as ANYTHING he does. Period. And he's younger than what Ryan was supposed to be in "Patriot games", go figure for "the sum of all fears".  I wouldn't go to see the movie just because that reason but...


To change a great plot because you want to be politically correct is an absolute shame- either you do the movie, or you don't ,but what you can't do is to put the name of a great book in a roadkill movie.

I can't understand how Clancy has given the "go ahead" on this one...I thought he was going to have some voice in this project (AFAIK he absolutely hated Clear and Present danger and said he won't let another of his books be butchered that way...)
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« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2002, 05:14:03 AM »
Looks like a horribly boring movie.  Why cant they make a movie that depicts an all out nuclear war between Russi and and the U.S?  Show the monsterous tank battles that would be inevitable.  Perhaps some huge air battles between Mig 29s and Mig 25s vs F15s, F16s, B52s and B1bs.    And of course there would also have to be big naval battles.  

Instead, they make some boring movie about 1 or 2 little nuclear bombs going off that is supposed to follow a cheasy novel.  Booo.
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« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2002, 06:56:57 AM »
Changed the plotline to make Ryan just entering the CIA as an anaylist, so Ryan's age meets Afflecks age. Affleck looks like being the franchises new Ryan, especially if boxoffice does well. I enjoyed his throw-away performance in Armagheddon, but most of his films are garbage, except his Kevin Smith movies.

I personally liked Dafoe as Clark, and Raymond Cruz as Chavez. And I thought Alec Baldwin did a great job in Hunt for Red October, he seemed a more perfect Ryan than Harrison.

The Bear and the Dragon I considered a particulary difficult read, and the paceing slowed right up, until the last quater of the book where it raced to a particulary incredulous ending. It is quite easily the worst of the Clancy "Ryan" books. My favs are Hunt, Rainbow Six, and Redstorm Rising.

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« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2002, 07:23:28 AM »
"I can't understand how Clancy has given the "go ahead" on this one"

He might not have anything to say about it..depends on how he sold the rights..

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