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Offline cajun

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Poll, would you like to see Biplanes?
« on: May 02, 2002, 12:53:22 PM »
I know I've posted about biplanes 10 times, but didnt get much feed back so instead of the name being "HTC please look at these planes" I decided to do a poll.

So I was wondering how many people would like to see Biplanes in Aces High? they would really make a great addition, I even did a test, I flew a SpitI (with the 8x303's) and only used half the guns keeping it under 250 MPH (standard top speed of the Gladiator in level flight) I was able to down 2 planes everytime I went up before gettin shot down... now imagine if I could out turn a zero...

The planes I'd really like to see are:
Gloster Gladiator/SeaGladiator: 4x303 brownings topspeed 250 (seaGladiator about 245 but can take off carriers)

CR42: not sure on guns but top speed is 312 MPH compaired to the 303 MPH A6m2 we are getting :) )

Fairey SwordFish: 1x7.9mm mg in front and gunner with 1x7.9mm mg in back, Carries 1 torp or 1500lbs of bombs, not sure on top speed.

I-153: Armament: 4x7.9mm mgs and 2x110lb bombs or 6xRS-82 rockets top speed: 267MPH level flight.

I would really like to see a fight Biplanes VS Spit 14's I think the biplanes would win cuz they could out turn the spits easy...of course if the spits were smart enough they would just run off and get more alt then turn back and dive on the slower biplanes trying to control thier speed. Would be a very interesting fight.
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2002, 12:56:47 PM »
Lets say it would be "interesting". :)

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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2002, 01:05:19 PM »
They would require their own arena.  I really don't see too many people wanting to take a Gladiator up against a Spitfire IX or F4U-1D.

But if you want to campaign for biplanes, how could you leave the Grumman F3F off your list, or omit the Curtiss Goshawk?

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No....
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2002, 01:07:24 PM »
There are too many other planes that would be useful, biplanes would be basically useless.

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2002, 01:09:53 PM »
I would consider the Swordfish thanks to it's role as the British CV attack plane. Would be neat to see a Mediterranean TOD with one frame focusing on attacking the Italian fleet. Maybe work them into a Frame of BoB stuff.

While I welcome all aircraft additions, I don't have any interest in Bips as fighters.

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Re: Poll, would you like to see Biplanes?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2002, 01:11:33 PM »
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I would really like to see a fight Biplanes VS Spit 14's I think the biplanes would win cuz they could out turn the spits easy...of course if the spits were smart enough they would just run off and get more alt then turn back and dive on the slower biplanes trying to control thier speed. Would be a very interesting fight.


No, not really.  Just watch a FW, Mustang, or Corsair go up against a Zero.  Hit, run, climb, hit, run, climb.  The Zero should be spinning like a top, trying to get off a lucky snap shot before the BnZ plane could get out of range.  A bi-plane would be even worse.

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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2002, 01:15:17 PM »
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They would require their own arena.  I really don't see too many people wanting to take a Gladiator up against a Spitfire IX or F4U-1D.

But if you want to campaign for biplanes, how could you leave the Grumman F3F off your list, or omit the Curtiss Goshawk?


Where do poeple get the impression that biplanes were outdated during WW2? they could easily match any early-mid war plane, look at the A6m2 we are getting the CR42 goes faster than it does and could out turn it! I don't think they would require their own arena.

And historically they were used allot over Europe, they even had some biplanes in the battle for Briton. I would go up against any late war plane in a ww2 biwinger, and if you could get em in a low turn fight you've practically won!

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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2002, 01:15:28 PM »
It would make for a fun Wild Wednesday..!
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2002, 01:27:40 PM »
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and if you could get em in a low turn fight you've practically won!


The problem will be in getting to this point. I don't think that too many experienced (not ace or ubbervet or anything) flyers will let it get to this point. As GoFaster mentioned, you'll get B&Zed to death.

It would be fun for canyon fights and dodging in a furball, but 1v1 co-E I don't think you'll get the results your expecting.

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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2002, 01:34:54 PM »
I was thinking more of furballing or upping at a vulched feild.

It would play a about the same roll as the a6m only better as far as turning go :) and if you add the CR42 youll be faster too :)
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2002, 01:42:03 PM »
Nope, development time is better spent on aircraft that players would actually fly.  Not on a "one time just for fun sortie".

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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2002, 01:47:08 PM »
no

Offline AKSWulfe

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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2002, 02:08:09 PM »
Kind of rediculous you guys think Bi-planes shouldn't be added.

I-15
I-153 both served on the Eastern front for a long while. Top speed of 280MPH.. could easily do damage with one of those in a furball. There were quite a few equipped with 4x 12.7mm MGs. (I-153BS)

Gloster Gladiator faced off against Fiat Cr.42 Falcos over Malta. 257MPH and 267MPH respectively. Gladitor had 4x 7.7mm Brownings. Cr.42 had 2 12.7mm MGs.

These fighters played a roll in WWII, so if you are going to clamor for things like the P61B, Rip, or other late war planes that saw limited action (Ta-152) then the above Bi-planes should be added.

How many planes of the latest release do you think are not "one time just for fun"ers Dago?

THey were for the CT, and these would work well in many scenarios.

EDIT: How did it go? If it saw action it should be modelled...
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Ohhh yes....
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2002, 02:20:49 PM »
I would much rather see early to mid war biplanes than a late Mustang, a Bearcat, or even a Do-335 (although I'm particularly fond of this last one...).
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2002, 03:29:59 PM »
Not interested.