Author Topic: Ackstarring...again. (Read 1173 times)

Apache · « **on:** May 06, 2002, 06:54:58 AM »

Come on, at least give an attempt to fly your virtual bomber the way it was intended.

I'm sure the guys in the back jumped for joy when the pilot said, "I'm gonna fly this B17 50 feet off the ground while you guys shoot at the bad guys. We're gonna die, but, oh well".

Gamey. Always has been IMO. Seems to be the same few everytime I see it.

Wotan · « **Reply #1 on:** May 06, 2002, 07:20:47 AM »

no doudt its rediculous. Folks wonder why fluffers get no respect.

Dago · « **Reply #2 on:** May 06, 2002, 07:32:46 AM »

Agreed, Ackstarring sucks.

Ackstar drivers are tards.

Dago

Fariz · « **Reply #3 on:** May 06, 2002, 07:57:27 AM »

Thanks guys for reminding it, I will add it to my "To Do" list.

Fariz

Preon1 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 06, 2002, 08:17:30 AM »

ackstars are easy kills. What's the problem?

Revvin · « **Reply #5 on:** May 06, 2002, 08:33:15 AM »

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no doudt its rediculous. Folks wonder why fluffers get no respect

You're right how can we when idiots like you put players who like to fly bombers in the same catagory as those who game the game and ackstar.

Alpo · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06, 2002, 08:35:21 AM »

My problem isn't with gunned buffs as much as a simple pilot-gunned buff.

Seems I'm always working up to a belly shot on a Lanc and at about 1.5d he will start to bank over and start shooting at the same time. Then it's try to set up for the same shot only to be thwarted by the rudder/gunner. Of course, the Lanc is climbing the entire time.

Why is the the gunner allowed rudder control?

It would seem that a pilot-gunned buff should go on autopilot. That way, if I saw a buff which was manuevering and shooting I'd be just a little more wary.

AcId · « **Reply #7 on:** May 06, 2002, 08:48:08 AM »

How dare they not fly straight and level for you Alpo!!

Tell us who these offenders are and we will have them flogged for you.

The gaul they must have to try to survive.

On a more serious note: What makes you think the tail gunner had no comms with the pilot?

Hey Fred?
Yeah Bob?
Could ya kick a bit to the right, we got an nme fighter trying to tickle our tummy.
Sure...Hang on fellas.

BOOT · « **Reply #8 on:** May 06, 2002, 08:50:38 AM »

I would like to address two points here...

[1]... I would bet you a beer at the Con, that the pilots upping Ackstars or Death Stars whichever you prefer... are generally not dedicated Buff pilots...

[2]... If you take the rudder control away from the pilot gunner you take the sport out of the buff pilot being able to defend himself... Geesh guys, You want someone to fly for 30 minutes to get to thier target and then make them fly level and in a straight line... so you can shoot them down easier ?

Maybe HT could program buffs so when a fighter gets within 1000 yds the guns are disabled in the buff,,, That would give ya a quick easy kill....

I tip my hat to the guys that are dedicated Buff Pilots... Man ya gotta have the patience of JOB to fly those things... I have flown them enough to recognize the frustration that is involved in flying these birds... I say Give the Buffers an even chance... If anything allow them to carry more than one gunner !!!

BOOT

Revvin · « **Reply #9 on:** May 06, 2002, 08:55:08 AM »

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Seems I'm always working up to a belly shot on a Lanc and at about 1.5d he will start to bank over and start shooting at the same time. Then it's try to set up for the same shot only to be thwarted by the rudder/gunner. Of course, the Lanc is climbing the entire time.

Why is the the gunner allowed rudder control? It would seem that a pilot-gunned buff should go on autopilot. That way, if I saw a buff which was manuevering and shooting I'd be just a little more wary.

The Lancaster pilots would often use a defensive corkscrew manouvre co-ordinated by their gunners calling to give them positions of enemy fighters. Why should'nt the gunner get at least rudder control? in RL you'd still have the pilot making corrections as I've said above but this thread is not about that its about those who feel the need to game the game and send their buff round a field at low level.

AcId · « **Reply #10 on:** May 06, 2002, 08:55:53 AM »

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Originally posted by BOOT
Snip...... I say Give the Buffers an even chance... If anything allow them to carry more than one gunner !!!

BOOT

Actually they kinda do BOOT.
For Instance if a con is diving from High 6 on a buff and the gunner is in the Tail position, if he uses the Alt-Fire (same button for cannon on fighters) the Tail pos will fire and any other pos that is able to track the con, say the Top turret for instance.
So, it's kinda like having multiple gunners but you can still only track one con with the guns.

Apache · « **Reply #11 on:** May 06, 2002, 09:20:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Preon1
ackstars are easy kills. What's the problem?

Nobody said they weren't easy. Still dweeby.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #12 on:** May 06, 2002, 09:53:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Apache

Nobody said they weren't easy. Still dweeby.

A think membrane exists between "Dweeby" and "Fun"...take, for example, the N1K.

Wotan · « **Reply #13 on:** May 06, 2002, 10:11:22 AM »

revvin is one of those wb ai ack stars no doudt.

I have killed plenty of buffs 7 in 1 sortie in a g10

i killed 10 in 2 frames of big week scenario plus 5 assists.

I dont care how much you like fluffin its still rediculously easy and has far to great an impact of gameplay. Ackstarring is just an extension of the fluffers need for attention.

whats it take to auto take off auto climb auto level then look through the laser site and push a button. wow tough sortie

Revvin · « **Reply #14 on:** May 06, 2002, 11:10:43 AM »

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I have killed plenty of buffs 7 in 1 sortie in a g10

i killed 10 in 2 frames of big week scenario plus 5 assists.

LOL ooh you big tough guy

does it make you feel more masculine puffing your chest out like that? LOL

I've never ack starred and never will however tempting it is to watch you wannabe luftwobbles get your leather panties all bunched trying to kill them. Never ceases to amuse me how people complain about ackstars and yet puff their chest out and say they have no problem killing buffs...if you don't then why are you not just shooting down these easy targets?