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Offline Wotan

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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2002, 11:18:28 AM »
whatever ackstar...

Apache dont fly lw

it aint chest thumpin its clarifying the point so when  I say I dislike fluffing ackstars I dont get a 100 thread post telling me how to kill umm.

always some spit dweeb throwing out lw card :rolleyes:
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2002, 11:24:55 AM »
Oh sweet Jebus NO!  Someone is actually having fun with their money while at the same time not using the equipment as it was intended!  I say we petition HT to kick them out of the game!  Ooh, maybe we could also take this opportunity to do a write-up on proper use of each aircraft in the planeset so that we can present it to HT for integration into the Terms of Service!


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BTW...thanks for bringing up the N1k2, Rip, this thread wouldn't be complete without it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2002, 11:31:11 AM »
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it aint chest thumpin its clarifying the point so when I say I dislike fluffing ackstars I dont get a 100 thread post telling me how to kill umm


so if they are soo easy to kill why are you not killing them with ease?

If we're going to write up guides for each plane then the Luftwobble one would be along the lines of:

- Fly round like a big girls blouse at high alt pushing forward on the stick ocassionaly and pressing the fire button. Don't turn, infact un-map the X axis of your joystick you'll never need it it and always always whine about your guns not being big enough and always always insist there is a conspiracy against luftwobble planes in Aces high.

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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2002, 11:33:20 AM »
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Oh sweet Jebus NO!  Someone is actually having fun with their money while at the same time not using the equipment as it was intended!  I say we petition HT to kick them out of the game!  Ooh, maybe we could also take this opportunity to do a write-up on proper use of each aircraft in the planeset so that we can present it to HT for integration into the Terms of Service!


SOB

BTW...thanks for bringing up the N1k2, Rip, this thread wouldn't be complete without it.


hehe, your point was my point. If its there, and its possible, folks will do it! Its their money.  Best you can do as a consumer is avoid it (Up a different field, come back and kill them as they egress!) (By the way, I *have* flown low over a field when friendly fighters were low in numbers to "cap" a field, just yesterday our B26's turned into F26's when we went on an unescorted field capture.)
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2002, 11:51:45 AM »
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I would like to address two points here...

[1]... I would bet you a beer at the Con, that the pilots upping Ackstars or Death Stars whichever you prefer... are generally not dedicated Buff pilots...

[2]...  If you take the rudder control away from the pilot gunner you take the sport out of the buff pilot being able to defend himself...  Geesh guys, You want someone to fly for 30 minutes to get to thier target and then make them fly level and  in a straight line... so you can shoot them down easier ?  

Maybe HT could program buffs so when a fighter gets within 1000 yds the guns are disabled in the buff,,, That would give ya a quick easy kill....:eek:

I tip my hat to the guys that are dedicated Buff Pilots... Man ya gotta have the patience of JOB to fly those things...  I have flown them enough to recognize the frustration that is involved in flying these birds...   I say Give the Buffers an even chance... If anything allow them to carry more than one gunner !!!  :cool:

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Wow

Well said, I owe you a beer.

I enjoy my Lancaster/Ar 234 flights....long, boring, and usually unappreciated  :)  Oh well!

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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2002, 11:59:41 AM »
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hehe, your point was my point. If its there, and its possible, folks will do it! Its their money.  Best you can do as a consumer is avoid it (Up a different field, come back and kill them as they egress!) (By the way, I *have* flown low over a field when friendly fighters were low in numbers to "cap" a field, just yesterday our B26's turned into F26's when we went on an unescorted field capture.)
:)


Yeah, I know you weren't whinin'...I just wanted to point out that no plane whine thread is truly complete without some mention of the N1k2.  :)


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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2002, 12:03:48 PM »
Yeah, hehe. Laugh it up. I'll be waiting on the next cv hidin' post.

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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2002, 12:06:30 PM »
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Yeah, hehe. Laugh it up. I'll be waiting on the next cv hidin' post.


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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2002, 12:10:31 PM »
you want me to post my kills vrs spits over the last few tours?

I rarely fly over 13k.

But that aint the point this is thread by apache and simply posted my agreement with his opinion.

you start with crap like this

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You're right how can we when idiots like you put players who like to fly bombers in the same catagory as those who game the game and ackstar.


I then demonstrate to you that the whole of AH buffing is as "gamey" as ya can get. whether from 2k on the deck flying spraying or from 20k. Theres nothing to buffing that borders on "simulation".

I put all buffers in the same category. Its gaming pure and simple.

That said check my buff ranks going back a few tours. As you will see I sometimes fly umm. Under 3 hours a tour mostly outa 40 or so total. But that doesnt make them anything but what they are.

and rip its is there money and I dont think anyone is saying "ht stop this". They are just calling it like they see it. :)

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2002, 12:14:22 PM »
How can playing a Game be anything but Gamey....  
Just sayin.....

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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2002, 12:14:37 PM »
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and rip its is there money and I dont think anyone is saying "ht stop this". They are just calling it like they see it. :)


Well in that case, then EVERYTHING you do in AH is "dweeby"..if you fly a Dora and defeat a 190A8 its dweeby, if you fly Zero and defeat a SpitIV its dweeby...get my point? ;)

Only in the CT or Special events will most "Dweeby" tags be dropped, in the meanwhile, the MA is basically a "Free for all" proven many times in 3 years.  I like to refer to the MA as "The easy mode arena" ;)

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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2002, 12:32:03 PM »
no not necessarily

in poker you can play 5 card stud nothing wild jacks or better to open

or 7 card no peek with 6 wildcards and black sevens your out

both are a "game" but when I play fer real money I want a serious "game".

You can do what ever you like in the main. Thats what its about.

But dont take offense when someone points out they believe it to be beyond what most people want out of the game. Thats why everyone aint ackstarrin.

Also even in events buffs are gamey. I refer ya to BW :)

I like everything about the main but my current conection.

a buff upping at 100 feet and driving around is like playing poker with a guy that folds every hand without checking his cards :)

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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2002, 12:32:58 PM »
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How can playing a Game be anything but Gamey....  
Just sayin.....


Good question. This has been debated many times and for ages it seems like. What are these things we spend so much time in?

Is it an air combat game that uses WWII aircraft?
Is it a simulator that tries to depict WWII?
Is it ?

Apparently my error is in assuming it is a simulation of WWII air combat. There seems to be an enormous amount of detail in the flight models, damage models, gunnery, balistics, aircraft model, etc.

I guess the lack of power ups threw me off.

Whats more, some will debate the manner in which folks suicide thier aircraft, or hide a TG or drive/use a GV, then berate someone who does the same about another category. Guess I fell off the wagon.

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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2002, 12:52:18 PM »
This thread is funny.  Lame as heck, but funny.

"How can playing a Game be anything but Gamey.... "


Shhh.......they want to think this is a "simulation".   Heaven forbid that someone might actually have FUN.  

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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2002, 12:57:58 PM »
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revvin is one of those wb ai ack stars no doudt.

I have killed plenty of buffs 7 in 1 sortie in a g10

i killed 10 in 2 frames of big week scenario plus 5 assists.

I dont care how much you like fluffin its still rediculously easy and has far to great an impact of gameplay. Ackstarring is just an extension of the fluffers need for attention.

whats it take to auto take off auto climb auto level then look through the laser site and push a button. wow tough sortie


:rolleyes:


Bombing easy? Please! Just stop. (And "Ridiculous" is spelled with an "I" tough guy.)

Let me tell you about my sortie last night. We flew 300 Miles in a 5 Lancaster Mission to drop the Bishop's HQ. We were engaged twice by enemy fighters on this mission. Flying at 28k, we lost 1 ship before the objective, and 3 after ordinance delivery. All told, we shot down 5 enemy fighters including 1 Me 262. I personally duked it out with RadX for a good 5-7 minutes. to Rad for a hell of a fight, and never giving up. I would use rudder turns to get my tail gun on him when he tried a belly attack. This went on over and over, until I finally ran out of ammo. Rad is a master at attacking bombers in my book.

But to call Bombing "easy" is simply a sign of ignorance, or lack of long experience in the field.

And as far as it being too impacting on the game, rest assured, the Bishop radar was back up before we would have even landed.

This is how I choose to spend my time in AH. You won't see me insulting your style and preference of AH. I would appreciate you showing me and mine the same respect.