Author Topic: Here's one for ya bloom!! (Read 334 times)

Tumor · « **on:** May 09, 2002, 03:07:10 AM »

I'm running an Asus P4T-E mobo. It does not have USB 2.0. I "thought" I could get a USB2.0 PCI card, install it and have USB2.0 access. I was wrong... I think lol. For whatever reason, I can't get WinXP to let go of my current USB, even though I have disabled "USB Legacy support" in the bios (the only reference I can find to USB in the bios as a matter of fact) AND have tried uninstalling everything "USB" in the hardware manager. Every time I do that, it just reinstalls the old stuff. I haven't checked to see if there are any jumper settings on the board to shut it off, however I have connected an extra two USB ports (referred to as USB2). The whole thing has me confused and no matter what I try, the USB2.0 drivers from MS update (and the disk that came with the NEC card) refuse to install. Off the disk I get the message "data invalid" and with MSUpdate "Update Failed". My question is this, IF I manage to disable the current USB on my mobo, can I then load the drivers for the 2.0 PCI card?

It just occured to me that I haven't tried the MSUpdate immediately after uninstalling the current USB (I've always done the "scan for hardware changes" after the uninstall) Sheesh, am I on the right track or is this a lost cause?

Skuzzy · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2002, 08:23:35 AM »

Tumor, I aint bloom25, but...most ASUS motherboards have a single jumper to disable/enable USB 2.0 support, when USB 2.0 is built on the motherboard.
On older boards without USB 2.0 support, there should be a jumper for enabling/disabling the USB altogether.

Oh, you need to be aware that changing hardware configurations in XP is a pain. I just got through going through a nightmare with XP Pro.
Get this;
Installed and registered the OS, then switched the keyboard and video display. XP refused to boot. I had to do a complete reinstall of the OS with the keyboard and monitor in place. This was build 2600 of XP Pro.
Craziest thing I have ever run into. It would boot to safe mode, but would not honor any manual hardware changes in the hardware setup/configuration.

Good luck.

bloom25 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2002, 12:28:42 PM »

"Legacy USB support" does not refer to the USB controller itself. That allows support for USB keyboards and mice if you don't use them in Windows.

Unfortunately, I haven't yet installed a USB 2.0 card in anything, but I can tell you that from what I've been hearing it can be a real pain. Under Windows XP is could potentially be a nightmare. (Windows 2000 wouldn't be much easier, except for the fact that Win2k doesn't have product activation.)

Disabling the onboard USB controller varies by motherboard manufacturer, and on some boards, I doubt it is even possible. Your best bet is probably to contact technical support for the USB card itself. I'm sure they have run into this before.

I wish I had something else to tell you, but USB 2.0 is not something I have gotten around to mess with yet.

SKurj · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2002, 01:24:48 PM »

SKuzzy...

I just changed from an ASUS A7V 133A with a duron 800 to an MSI K7T turbo 2 mobo and XP 100+ cpu...

Using XP pro corp, it just booted right up made the hardware changes and was running fine.

I took Bloom's advice and then did a fresh install of XP hoping for a performance gain over the old install... didn't get one..

XP detected the new hardware no probs for me, granted mobo's both use same chipset.

SKurj

Skuzzy · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2002, 03:02:43 PM »

What build number of XP is that Skurj? I am really curious about this one. Oddest think I have ever encountered (well,..maybe not the oddest thing, but really wierd).

SKurj · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2002, 05:52:23 PM »

oops XP 1800+ +)

SKurj

Skuzzy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2002, 07:59:53 PM »

LOL! Didn't catch the typo,..I was asking about the build number of MS-XP.

MS apparently has several different builds on the market.

SKurj · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2002, 09:40:25 PM »

control panel , System says its version 2002...

ahem... errm its a copy i found, no registration neccessary

SKurj

Skuzzy · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2002, 08:43:40 AM »

Ahhh, I was correct. Many different versions of XP Pro on the market.

FYI: Build 2600 uses W2K Pro's installation method. The only difference between them is the word "2000" is replaced with "XP".

Earlier versions of XP are different. They install giving you no options, depending on the build.

Good ole MS. Wonder how many version are out there? I remember about 23 (or was it 21?) different versions of W98SE were rolled out during its life. Build 2600, of XP Pro, appears to be broken. Whether intentional or not, you cannot change the hardware without reinstalling the OS, after you have registered it.