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Offline GRUNHERZ

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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2002, 07:43:07 PM »
I just want it because its an early variant. And also because I am building a model of it now... :)

CC about the pacific update, then I think we need an early US painted P39/P400.
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Yes bring 190 A-3!
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2002, 07:52:59 PM »
It is a crucial variant of the 190 Series.

As it did in late 41 early 42 it would dominate Spitfire MkV's

And we shall close the FW190 Chapter in Aces High.
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Quote from: 100hooch on July 27, 2014, 02:44:19 AM
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: Yes bring 190 A-3!
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2002, 08:31:58 PM »
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And we shall close the FW190 Chapter in Aces High.


No way! :)

Ahem:

FW 190A-0
FW 190A-1
FW 190A-1/U1
FW 190A-2
FW 190A-2/U1
FW 190A-2/U3
FW 190A-3
FW 190Aa-3
FW 190A-3/U1
FW 190A-3/U2
FW 190A-3/U3
FW 190A-3/U4
FW 190A-3/U7
FW 190A-4
FW 190A-4/Trop
FW 190A-4/U1
FW 190A-4/U3
FW 190A-4/U4
FW 190A-4/U8
FW 190A-4/R1
FW 190A-4/R6
FW 190A-5
FW 190A-5/U2
FW 190A-5/U3
FW 190A-5/U4
FW 190A-5/U6
FW 190A-5/U7
FW 190A-5/U8
FW 190A-5/U9
FW 190A-5/U10
FW 190A-5/U11
FW 190A-5/U12
FW 190A-5/U13
FW 190A-5/U14
FW 190A-5/U15
FW 190A-5/U16
FW 190A-5/U17
FW 190A-5/R1
FW 190A-5/R6
FW 190A-6
FW 190A-6/R1
FW 190A-6/R2
FW 190A-6/R3
FW 190A-6/R4
FW 190A-6/R6
FW 190A-6/R11
FW 190A-7
FW 190A-7/R1
FW 190A-7/R2
FW 190A-7/R3
FW 190A-7/R4
FW 190A-7/R6
FW 190A-8
FW 190A-8/U1
FW 190A-8/U3
FW 190A-8/U11
FW 190A-8/R1
FW 190A-8/R2
FW 190A-8/R3
FW 190A-8/R4
FW 190A-8/R5
FW 190A-8/R6
FW 190A-8/R7
FW 190A-8/R8
FW 190A-8/R11
FW 190A-8/R12
FW 190A-8D/NL
FW 190A-9
FW 190A-9/R1
FW 190A-9/R2
FW 190A-9/R3
FW 190A-9/R4
FW 190A-9/R6
FW 190A-9/R11
FW 190A-9/R12
FW 190A-10
FW 190B-0 Proposed
FW 190B-1 Proposed
FW 190C-0 Proposed
FW 190D-0
FW 190D-9
FW 190D-9/R11
FW 190D-10
FW 190D-11
FW 190D-11/R20
FW 190D-11/R21
FW 190D-12
FW 190D-12/R5
FW 190D-12/R11
FW 190D-12/R21
FW 190D-12/25
FW 190D-13
FW 190D-13/R5
FW 190D-13/R11
FW 190D-9/R21
FW 190D-13/R25
FW 190D-14
FW 190D-15
FW 190E Proposed
FW 190F-1
FW 190F-2
FW 190F-3
FW 190F-3/R1
FW 190F-3/R3
FW 190F-4 Cancelled
FW 190F-5 Cancelled
FW 190F-6 Cancelled
FW 190F-7 Proposed
FW 190F-8
FW 190F-8/U1
FW 190F-8/U2
FW 190F-8/U3
FW 190F-8/U4
FW 190F-8/U5
FW 190F-8/U14
FW 190F-8/U15
FW 190F-8/R1
FW 190F-8/R2
FW 190F-8/R3
FW 190F-8/R5
FW 190F-8/R8
FW 190F-8/R11
FW 190F-8/R13
FW 190F-8/R14
FW 190F-8/R15
FW 190F-8/R16
FW 190F-9
FW 190F-10 Unbuilt
FW 190F-11 Unbuilt
FW 190F-12 Unbuilt
FW 190F-13 Unbuilt
FW 190F-14 Unbuilt
FW 190F-15
FW 190F-16
FW 190F-16/R14
FW 190G-0
FW 190G-1
FW 190G-1/Trop
FW 190G-2
FW 190G-2/Trop
FW 190G-2/N
FW 190G-3
FW 190G-3/Trop
FW 190G-3/R5
FW 190G-3/N
FW 190G-4
FW 190G-4/Trop
FW 190G-5 Planned
FW 190G-6 Planned
FW 190G-7
FW 190G-8
FW 190G-8/R4
FW 190G-8/R5
FW 190G-9 Planned
FW 190G-10 Planned
FW 190H-1 Proposed
FW 190S-5
FW 190S-8
Ta 152A-1
Ta 152A-2
Ta 152B-1 Proposed
Ta 152B-2 Proposed
Ta 152B-3
Ta 152B-4
Ta 152B-4/R1
Ta 152B-4/R2
Ta 152B-5
Ta 152V53
Ta 152B-5/R11
Ta 152V19
Ta 152V20
Ta 152V21
Ta 152C-0
Ta 152C-1
Ta 152C-2
Ta 152C-3
Ta 152E-2
Ta 152H-0
Ta 152H-0/R11
Ta 152H-0/R21
Ta 152H-0/R31
Ta 152H-1
Ta 152S-1
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Offline milnko

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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2002, 08:37:38 PM »
FW190A4 in Hermann Graf colors is the way ta go!  :D
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2002, 08:45:25 PM »
I dont think I could fly a Hermann Graf painted plane, might as well have a red star on it...... :(
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Offline Nefarious

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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2002, 09:32:05 PM »
With the weapon combinations, alot of the models you listed are in the game.

You are just getting outrageous with what you listed.

A-1?

it was so prone to fire it almost cancelled the 190 program totally.

I'm pro-everything in this game. Pro-Luftwaffe, Pro-IJAAF/IJN, Pro-RAF, Pro-USAAF. You get the picture. I dont understand why people stress the availability of every variant of one plane. The A-3 is a vital plane, the A-1? give me a break. The G series 190s? talk about a long range target. The lufty boys have a jabo F, and it's hardly used.

Dont bite off more than you can chew.

You should be happy you have a Ta-152.


If any 190 is needed it should be the A-3 and graphic changes to our A-8 to make it A8/R8.
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Quote from: 100hooch on July 27, 2014, 02:44:19 AM
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2002, 09:51:52 PM »
Damn calm down dude.....   :rolleyes: It was obviously joke!

These are realistically needed to fill 190 set in the long run!

FW190A2

(The A1 was pretty insignificant only 100 made while A2 had some 430 built by the end of 1941)

FW190A3

FW190A6

(The A7 is irrelevant since it was the A8 preproduction run in all but name :) )

FW190A9

(Important variant starting fall 1944)

FW190G

Any variant of the FW190G series. These were important long range strike variants with rather large bomb capacity for FW190.

Calm down.... :)
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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2002, 10:03:23 PM »
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I dont think I could fly a Hermann Graf painted plane, might as well have a red star on it...... :(


I found this on his book's web site:

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Hermann Graf spent many years in Soviet captivity. Much has been said and written about Graf's alleged cooperation with the Soviets. This will be analyzed in detail in the book. The authors have access to an extensive material from Russian POW archives - including Hermann Graf's entire POW file, which has been hidden in a Russian archive until only a few weeks ago (December 2001). Finally, it is possible to uncover the full truth of Hermann Graf's activities in captivity, and to get rid of some long-lasting myths!


I'd like to hear both sides of the story.
OTOH why would it matter if he cooperated with the Russians after his capture. That just tells me he was not a very good NAZI.
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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2002, 10:14:15 PM »
A-3 would be cool because of the cool paintjob with JG2 eagle on sides.
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2002, 10:21:59 PM »
It's interesting to hear you say "he was not a very good NAZI.", in describing his defection to the communist side. It is interesting because the Soviet camp propagandists called all the loyal Germans "Nazis" as well, when  in fact, they were just good Germans who were loyal to their buddies and were able to resist the communist lies and pressures. Apparently Graf didnt feel this loyalty was important. Everything I have ever read about the types who joined the Communists in the camps indicated they were scum. Most were apparently low class poorly educated SS or SA oppritunist degenerates who only knew to go with the strong easy side. Whats even worse is he went on to live in East Germany after the war. He voluntarily went to East Germany for gods sake. Ho completely lost his honor and it was not a matter of temporary weakness under duress of awaful Soviet camp tactics. Is it any wonder he was despised nearly to the man by all surving Luftwaffe Jagdflieger after the war, he wasn't even allowed into their veterans organization?

I do feel sorry for him of course, he was a great pilot, a great leader and national hero during the war but his post war behavior was completely shameful and unnaceptable. He turned to the Soviets for gods sake.... Very sad? :(
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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2002, 10:46:30 PM »
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Any variant of the FW190G series. These were important long range strike variants with rather large bomb capacity for FW190.

Calm down.... :)



G Series.

Why would you guys want the G when it is even slower and less guns than F series?

Sorry Grunherz but G series is a waste of time. Fly an F, oh wait nobody does.

Sorry bout being snappy earlier.

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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2002, 10:54:56 PM »
Fw 190A-3 didn't reach combat until Spring  '42.
If you want a 1941 Fw 190 you are looking for the A-1.
A-2 were just coming into front line units at the end of '41.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2002, 10:57:04 PM by funkedup »
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2002, 10:58:03 PM »
Well G does have less guns, and thats one of the good things. Who cares about the 13mm anyway on the F? The G still has the 2 x MG151/20 cannon.

What G does have is the ability to carry really big bombs. and thats nice. Or a really big bomb and lots of extra fuel. And it handles better because it has less weight from no guns and no extra F8 armor, which BTW seems to have no effect in AH F8. :)



"Sorry bout being snappy earlier."

No problem, I'm sure you would be surprised to hear this, but I too have been known to have a little BBS temper from time to time.  :D
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2002, 11:11:49 PM »
Stop trying to fight this Funked more FW190 are coming. And they are coming to get YOU, yes you in that pink spitfire!  ;)

You are right about the A3 service date, I have confused that with the A2 service date.

The FW190A2 came to JG26 (for sure) and JG2 IIRC in December.

But I still want the FW190A3 most! And it fits the 1942 thing very well.  But I wouldn't cry too much if the A1 or A2 were put in either.  :)

FW190A3 to AH!
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Can we have the FW190A3 in 1.10?
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2002, 11:28:17 PM »
Here are some facts from Fw-190 in action.

"Due to the rapid development of the Fw190, the first examples of the A3 were ready to leave the assembly lines by late 1941."

"Fw190A3's began to reach Western Front units by Spring of 1942"

"Production figures of the Fw190A3 are, again, contradictory.Some sources claiming 500 machines produced, while higher estimates claim over 200 were delivered in late 1941 and over 1,800 were delivered in 1942."
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Quote from: 100hooch on July 27, 2014, 02:44:19 AM
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!
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