Author Topic: Taking out HQ (Read 197 times)

Turbot · « **on:** May 14, 2002, 01:56:26 PM »

Not gameplay issue - just a gameplay question. I was told I couldn't ask it in General so here it is.

In the "Strategic System" table it says

"HQ 19 1000 lb 2 hours Kills all radar for a country"

Has anyone experimented to see if it matters what you hit with all that wieght? I think everyone just assumes the biggest buildings, but has anyone tested to see if that is truely the case?

There is no one building that takes 19 X 1000 to drop. I am fairly certain the central square building takes 14 X 1000,has yet to fail to destroy it, but I know it is not 19 X 1000. So...can we hit any of the buildings for same effect -is it just eggs anywhere in the target area?

Has anyone actually tested to see?

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2002, 03:13:07 PM »

Turbot,

It's not that you "couldn't" ask this question in the general forum, but we try and keep the gameplay posts in the gameplay forum for simplicity's sake.

I think there are 4 main buildings in the HQ, one large one and three smaller. I think it takes 10K to destroy the big one, and 3K each for the three smaller ones. I think that's where they came up with the 19K to take out the HQ.

Of course, I could be totally wrong.

Turbot · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2002, 03:17:46 PM »

I am suspicious that you are right I had opportunity to watch this from ground recently.

Don · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2002, 12:07:04 PM »

My understanding is that it takes 19k bombs to kill EVERYTHING at an HQ. If so, 3 hours.

Turbot · « **Reply #4 on:** May 16, 2002, 12:23:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Don
My understanding is that it takes 19k bombs to kill EVERYTHING at an HQ. If so, 3 hours.

I don't think that is it either. Wonder if testing offline would work (not knowing if the arena settings are the same)? Online it is hard to test - but I have seen radar completely wiped out once while I was at 2,000 feet alt at a HQ while 2 higher bombers finished the job. All we killed were the 3 largest buildings.

What I am wondering is - are only those buildings THE target, or are the other buildings in the facility able to produce the same results?

As for the full time for HQ to be down, that is accomplished by killing the city(s)

"Strategic system

The basic categories of strategy targets in Aces High include field targets, country targets, city targets, and supply targets.

The field targets affect availability of field items such as planes, fuel, ammo, etc. Every tower has a chalkboard displaying the field number and the current status of the field targets.

The country targets are the factories that affect the downtime of field targets.

The city targets are the buildings within a city and they affect the downtime of the country targets.

The supply targets are the trains, convoys, and barges that resupply damaged fields and cities. "

HQ shows a downtime in targets table of 2 hours - but I know it doesnt stay down that long unless city is hit. This stuff is confusing

SKurj · « **Reply #5 on:** May 16, 2002, 12:53:54 PM »

2 lancs.. drop all ord only on the big center building and dar goes down for the correct amount of time or untilk someone supplies it. The rest of the stuff at HQ makes no diff. Though some of the HQ buildings are tied to the dar facility i believe

SKurj

lazs2 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2002, 02:24:13 PM »

the way it should work is that if you drop enough bombs on the hq to kill the dar for two hours or... if you are part of a group that does.... Your account with AH should be automaticaly canceled for at least a year.
lazs

majic · « **Reply #7 on:** May 16, 2002, 02:45:49 PM »

Yeah, cause nobody plays the strat game...

CavemanJ · « **Reply #8 on:** May 16, 2002, 04:31:04 PM »

Unless it's changed, it's the big center building between the 2 skyscraper types. That one buildings takes 19,000lbs to take down and controls the radar
5,000lbs removes enemy dot radar (the red dots)
10,000lbs removes friendly dot radar (the green dots)
15,000lbs removes enemy sector marker (red bar)
19,000lbs and it's dead, all dar gone for 30minutes.

If the city is totally destroyed, the trains can't supply the HQ so it stays down for 2 hours. Partial destruction of the city means slightly increased rebuild time for the HQ (city at 50% hq down for 1hr).

Turbot · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2002, 09:49:44 AM »

HTC feel free to chime in anytime, to clarify AcesHIgh help 1.00

Ripsnort · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2002, 10:38:28 AM »

Turbot, Cave repeated what I told ya in the other thread. He's right.

Turbot · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2002, 02:04:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Turbot, Cave repeated what I told ya in the other thread. He's right.

Online the center building take's no more than 14,000 to drop (I have not tried online with less bombs than that) then it is gone. It results in loss of enemy and friendly counters (dots) and leaves radar bars behind.

Then when you go back and drop the other two buildings then the radars bars stop working too. I do not know the minimum eggs required for each of these additional buildings.

My question however had nothing to do with that - what I wanted to know is if anyone tried to see if same effect can be obtained by hitting the other buildings.